Pass Integrated to Pass separates


Hello - I'm considering upgrading my pass int-150 to xp-10 and XA.60.5's (maybe even 100's). The problem I'm facing is my source components aren't the best. I have a vpi scout 2 and a ps audio phone pre, although (this is embarrassing) most of the music I listen to is through sonos. I'm wondering if this upgrade might be pointless and I should instead upgrade my source components first (cd/dac and phono).

One thought I had was to do the upgrade as planned and get an oppo 105 to hold me over until I'm ready for a big boy digital source. The truth in all of this is I'll probably continue to primarily listen through sonos (sorry I love it). What I'm really after is just more of the pass sound, I can't get enough, it's intoxicating. Just wondering if some better quality sources would be more appropriate and I'll get more satisfaction from them alternatively to the pass separates.

I appreciate any advice from the community.

Thanks!
skyflyer04
Yes, I have Martin Logan Theos. The room is 9x13 although it is a living room space in an open floor plan. Therefore one side of the room is all glass windows and the other is open to a much larger space (welcome to condo living).

I would describe the Pass as sound sweet and textured. I previously owned Krell and I find this sound to be much more lush and not nearly as analytical as the krell.
If I were you I wouldn't go to the Pass separates. The Theos like power, so the XA 60.5 probably won't work optimally. If you go larger Pass amps the costs quickly skyrockets and you'll then also have to question whether the XP10 is the right preamp. Since you like the Sonos, consider replacing it with a better media player. Something like the new Sony.

Your system looks like it sounds pretty good as it is. Good luck.
I have owned the XA30.5, 60.5, 100.5. Now I have the X250.5 and I want to buy this year X350.8. I have listend and tested the integrated amps. I did not like them so much. Stage was wide and deep, but withing the stage instruments were much too big in proportion. There was no intimate focus what is very important. Also the X150.5 I did not like. The XA30.5 and 60.6 are exeptional good for the money.

Sonos has nothing to do with good hifi. I sold it, I never will sell this again now I run my own business. Even for the money you can get superior stuff. They use very cheap components.

Which speaker do you use now.....

Pass Labs can give a wide and deep stage, but when you use a brand like Sonus which is a 2 dimensional brand in the kind of image it gives. So you will loose the depth and wide which a Pass Labs can give. It is the same as you buy a Ferrari without the engine. And you put in a Ford engine. It doens't make sense at all!!
I completely agree with the Ferrari analogy. I wonder if I might consider an x250 with the xp10? It would leave some funds for a more appropriate source. I can always move to class A later. I don't have an issue with the sound I have now, I just want more of it!
Hi Bo, not to hijack the thread too much, but I am researching Pass amps and thinking about buying one for my Legacy Audio Signature II speakers(very large floorstanders). Do you like the X250.5 much more than the X150.5? Seems like they should sound about the same, except for more power with the X250.5. Also, since you have so much experience with Pass, for the money, which Pass would you recommend for 93dB speakers and moderate listening levels?