Absolute top tier DAC for standard res Redbook CD


Hi All.

Putting together a reference level system.
My Source is predominantly standard 16/44 played from a MacMini using iTunes and Amarra. Some of my music is purchased from iTunes and the rest is ripped from standard CD's.
For my tastes in music, my high def catalogues are still limited; so Redbook 16/44 will be my primary source for quite some time.

I'm not spending DCS or MSB money. But $15-20k retail is not out of the question.

Upsampling vs non-upsampling?
USB input vs SPDIF?

All opinions welcome.

And I know I need to hear them, but getting these ultra $$$ DAC's into your house for an audition ain't easy.

Looking for musical, emotional, engaging, accurate , with great dimension. Not looking for analytical and sterile.
mattnshilp
Andrew, did you read post 135?

Those people were wrong. Cant see the forest for the trees. Class A voltage, Class B or Class D current drive. Simples.

All the engineering egghead speak cant get away from that helicopter view.
Been there, done that, bought the T shirt.
01-03-15: Wisnon
I got it from actual listening at Shows and from persuing forums like A-Asylum. There is a huge current dumping thread there.

I was interested in getting a Nakamishi Stasis amp once upon a time, as I know of Nelson Pass accomplishment with Stasis power. A UK audio industry buddy also told me about the hybrid amp tech and how they developed it.

BTW, I did not even visit Goldmund until mid-2013, so you are barking up the wrong tree. What would they know about Current Dumping anyway?

I also resent your implication that I cant think for myself and apply critical reasoning. Methinks you are the one swayed here by bling.
Wisnon (Answers | This Thread)

01-03-15: Wisnon
Andrew, did you read post 135?

Those people were wrong. Cant see the forest for the trees. Class A voltage, Class B or Class D current drive. Simples.

All the engineering egghead speak cant get away from that helicopter view.
Been there, done that, bought the T shirt.

Audio posting is riddled with derivate information due to the lack of a true technical background for many of us and we all recycle it endlessly. Nothing new there (and thus the Godlmund guess).

Posts 108 and 9 said it all. Case closed. Start another thread if you still desire to flesh out your hypothesis.

I do not own Devaliet, but there appears to be actual innovation (and the patents behind it). I am most intrigued by the Phantom project. Devaliet apparently had a team of 40 engineers fiddling on it. That's in stark contrast to what we are used to seeing in hi end audio (lone audio mystic tweaking a 1950s tube circuit through the alchemy of better parts) and trumpeting that as innovation. They both have their place, but Devaliet and companies like it are dragging things forward and people will naturally resist that or be cynical (or jealous if you are a manufacturer like your friend in the UK Norman). I have been waiting for something like the Phantom since the early 2000s and its here for better and for worse.

I would love to hear the Devaliet in my system. I would love even more to hear the Phantom speakers and either use them for a second system or possibly a sick HT system. I showed wifey images of them, and she was enthralled. She told me to dump all my archaic junk, buy a nice credenza and some phantoms for my dedicated room. It would make for some absurd, existential style theater....:)

Matt, an industry guy who is fairly picky also heard the Devaliet/Totem system at the NY show and was impressed as well.
@agear.. I've been following that dev chat thread for a while now.. Seems that everyone that's heard the Totaldac server is in love with it and that the Moon a Mind is great too except the control point for it sucks. The Aries seems to not fair as well but I'm happy with mine.

What I'm looking forward to is the new Devialet Dialog.. $400.00 and supposedly their Spark control point is killer.. Like Sonos good. If the Dialog sounds killer then the combo could be a real game changer.
How can there be a guess from them, when I didnt meet the people till a year later and I dont even know the technical people there? The tread clearly shows a 2012 discussion.

Quit while you are ahead, you are spreading misinformation. It seems you cant see the Forest for the trees either.

No one said Devialet does not sound good…I heard it since 2012 and I do agree that Phantom is true break thru stuff, if it sounds as good as they say. The hybrid amplification is not, its just evolutionary and it does have problems driving hard to drive speakers, hence then going for more power in the 400.

Dont care what Matt or the wifey says, it does not change reality. Sorry.
Nelson Pass developed STASIS Power for Threshold from the 1990s, and licensed the tech to Nakamishi. Those vintage amps still command a good price as the tech is well proven. Class A voltage to sweeten the sound, class B or now Class D current drive. Great marriage of SQ while having efficient grunt. Clearly Class D is significantly more efficient than Class B. Evolutionary, not revolutionary.

Having patents does not necessarily mean true breakthru, it just means you do things slightly differently than what has been patened before. Many ways to skin a cat.