Dan D 'Agostino, Mark Levinson, Jim Thiel,

Audiolabyrinth...unless you're joking or working for Carver...that add has run before and I think it's ridiculous, and although those with 5,000 sq ft listening rooms might like the speakers, that add does little to dispel Carver's reputation as somewhat of a clown. I also have to wonder what Carver is thinking with the 700 watt mono tube amps that look like tube testing equipment...just strange. I think he recently designed some nice little tube amps but his tacky demeanor just takes away from credibility, such as it is.

These brands will carry on because they are established. I will always be a fanboy of Thiel loudspeakers. Simply the finest out there at this juncture. It is amazing to see the innovations that Pass, Carver, Curl and D'Agnostino are doing currently. Sometimes, leaving a comfortable postion to explore an unknown postion is warranted. Happy Listening!

I am not joking, No, I do not work for any audio company, nor am I a dealer, I am suprised at your post, you may not know much about carver speakers?, I have exsperience with the Carver speakers called, The Carver Amazing speakers, they were from the late 80s and early 90s, They were a panel speaker with 4 twelves on the panel along with a giant 5ft ribbon mid/treble, with out board cross over, they, to this day are one of the most transparent speakers I have listened too, They are just like electrostat speakers in all aspects, way ahead of it's time for speakers when they were produced, so if the new carver speakers are up-grade over these, I would like to listen to a pair, I would be amused if they better the originals!

Surprised that I think Carver is an annoying freak? I might be the only one who feels this way, but he seems insane.

I saw and heard the Carver Amazings in 1988. I was smitten by them. I had heard the Magnepans back then, DCM Time Windows and other cone speakers. They didn't impress me. The Carver speakers were not cheap but I gave up the cash for them gladly. I enjoyed them for 14 years. I upgraded to the one piece ribbons, upgraded wiring, crossover caps and bypassed the fuses. My audiophile buddies liked them too. They were fast, but didn't have the tight bass like a cone speaker. The problem was after being used to the fast ribbons, cone speakers sounded like two boxes. Not until I heard my buddies' Thiels could I consider a cone box speaker. They are fast.

People in audiophile circles seem to bash Carver products so much that I didn't feel like I had a real stereo. So I finally switched to a pair of Thiels. Notice I didn't say upgrade. I was pretty bummed that once going to the Thiels I spent significant $$$ upgrading the amp and wires just to get the Thiels to sound as good as the Carvers. Out of all of that I do like the bass better now. My wife liked the looks of the Carvers. It's been 12 years and she still reminds me how much she liked them.