Alas... HT questions here lay fallow so often.
Thats a real shame.
Ok… so we’ve discovered there are no stupid questions a long time ago.
Well, maybe one now and then, but that’s all.
RE: DHC 9.9 front panel display
the front panel display comes on when you do not have your dedicated display (TV or FPJ) energized, and you touch the power sw and then either the Dimmer sw, or Display bottons of the front panel.
Duh.
RE trigger
There are a couple issues surrounding the compatibility between Asian designed and built aV processors or Receivers, and associated devices or amplifiers they are supposed to trigger, apparently.
Especially if you are building a diverse HT array connecting various brands of appliances.
Ordinarily one would surmise a ‘true’ 100ma 12VDC signal should engage the outboard component or amp’s associated remote start solenoid/relay.
Well, think again.
Searching the web furiously for days I stumbled upon any number of popular brand name off shore receivers and AV controllers which exhibited sincere lack in this area. Often, projectors, and amps were the issue, though some TVs were as well unable to become energized properly. The source of these triggering errors revolved around more than merely the low amperage supply. Some were indeed recalls and others were simply pilot setup errors and the greatest bulk of these inadequacies were in the actual true level of the energy being transmitted thru the trigger interface from the initiating (controling) device. In other words, the makers said it was X volts and Z milliamps, and the truth was otherwise.
Seldom did any maker provide public notice about this concern, but often allowed during warranty periods a refurbishing of sorts to alleviate the issue should it arise in a customers situation. Albeit, they had to ship it off a lot of the time and the turn around period could be significantly extensive now and then.
The work around or obvious solution often became DIY-ing a power sup tweak to the controlling unit’s triggering array, or purchasing some after market triggering device such as the Emotiva, Niles Audio, or some other likewise remote triggering unit.
Knowing this I was cringing a lot about having to spend still more $$$ on another accessory I should not have to acquire. Lovely.
That said, I believe the issue I have is the rated 100ma signal wasn’t accurately quoted by the Integra folks, though I have yet to test it, but I will.
An Integra support tech and I went over the settings for triggers, we discovered mine was set properly prior to involving the technical aid.…
The tech couldn’t completely explain how the trigger was actuated during the process, or by which button or component function. I did find that a bit odd.
Consequently, the still unclear item is how the trigger is engaged to begin with.
Just turn on the 9.9 Proc itself?
Or merely Turn on the associated connected component?
Or merely pushing the input selector on the remote… ala, DVD; AUX 1; Cable TV; etc.
As each item above was initiated or engaged during separate trials, I strongly suspect the Integra I have doesn’t output sufficient amperage to energize the Butler TDB 5150 start relay as mentioned by Butler support.
A Butler support agent said 100ma was likely a bare minimum and above that would probgbably be required. Super. He went on to say Butler could in fact lessen the required signal strength necessary to energize the amp, were I of a mind to send it to them so they could affect the increased sensitivity tweak to the amp.
For about the same money as shipping costs the Niles Audio folks make a couple gizmos which could solve the issue, as well as does Emotiva. The Emotiva solution is far less expensive, but yields less functionality as well.
So If you’re considering an AV controller, pre owned or new, and predict you’ll be using the triggers it provides as a selling point, do some leg work and find out in advance how persnickety or synergistic it might be with the prospective amp (s) & components you will attach to it immediately or at some future date.
Thought posterity would want to know… and I hate to see threads here go without responses or solutions.
Thats a real shame.
Ok… so we’ve discovered there are no stupid questions a long time ago.
Well, maybe one now and then, but that’s all.
RE: DHC 9.9 front panel display
the front panel display comes on when you do not have your dedicated display (TV or FPJ) energized, and you touch the power sw and then either the Dimmer sw, or Display bottons of the front panel.
Duh.
RE trigger
There are a couple issues surrounding the compatibility between Asian designed and built aV processors or Receivers, and associated devices or amplifiers they are supposed to trigger, apparently.
Especially if you are building a diverse HT array connecting various brands of appliances.
Ordinarily one would surmise a ‘true’ 100ma 12VDC signal should engage the outboard component or amp’s associated remote start solenoid/relay.
Well, think again.
Searching the web furiously for days I stumbled upon any number of popular brand name off shore receivers and AV controllers which exhibited sincere lack in this area. Often, projectors, and amps were the issue, though some TVs were as well unable to become energized properly. The source of these triggering errors revolved around more than merely the low amperage supply. Some were indeed recalls and others were simply pilot setup errors and the greatest bulk of these inadequacies were in the actual true level of the energy being transmitted thru the trigger interface from the initiating (controling) device. In other words, the makers said it was X volts and Z milliamps, and the truth was otherwise.
Seldom did any maker provide public notice about this concern, but often allowed during warranty periods a refurbishing of sorts to alleviate the issue should it arise in a customers situation. Albeit, they had to ship it off a lot of the time and the turn around period could be significantly extensive now and then.
The work around or obvious solution often became DIY-ing a power sup tweak to the controlling unit’s triggering array, or purchasing some after market triggering device such as the Emotiva, Niles Audio, or some other likewise remote triggering unit.
Knowing this I was cringing a lot about having to spend still more $$$ on another accessory I should not have to acquire. Lovely.
That said, I believe the issue I have is the rated 100ma signal wasn’t accurately quoted by the Integra folks, though I have yet to test it, but I will.
An Integra support tech and I went over the settings for triggers, we discovered mine was set properly prior to involving the technical aid.…
The tech couldn’t completely explain how the trigger was actuated during the process, or by which button or component function. I did find that a bit odd.
Consequently, the still unclear item is how the trigger is engaged to begin with.
Just turn on the 9.9 Proc itself?
Or merely Turn on the associated connected component?
Or merely pushing the input selector on the remote… ala, DVD; AUX 1; Cable TV; etc.
As each item above was initiated or engaged during separate trials, I strongly suspect the Integra I have doesn’t output sufficient amperage to energize the Butler TDB 5150 start relay as mentioned by Butler support.
A Butler support agent said 100ma was likely a bare minimum and above that would probgbably be required. Super. He went on to say Butler could in fact lessen the required signal strength necessary to energize the amp, were I of a mind to send it to them so they could affect the increased sensitivity tweak to the amp.
For about the same money as shipping costs the Niles Audio folks make a couple gizmos which could solve the issue, as well as does Emotiva. The Emotiva solution is far less expensive, but yields less functionality as well.
So If you’re considering an AV controller, pre owned or new, and predict you’ll be using the triggers it provides as a selling point, do some leg work and find out in advance how persnickety or synergistic it might be with the prospective amp (s) & components you will attach to it immediately or at some future date.
Thought posterity would want to know… and I hate to see threads here go without responses or solutions.