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B&W design quality observation. Any downside

I just took the baffle off a pair of B&W Concept 90 CM1's from 1991. I wanted to tighten the woofer drivers to the baffle. I was surprised to find the spider for the woofer was cast in 1 piece with the front baffle! Certainly no tightening required.(It confirmed the B&W ethic of good quality to me. The rubberized/elastic seal between baffle and speaker was also in perfect condition. I was left to tighten the tweeters to the baffle and the baffle to the body-which made a very noticeable improvement to the clarity, dynamics and smoothness of the sound
I am impressed by this design; it seems sensible when technically feasible as it absolutely eliminates any chance of loosening from the baffle-which is the bane of ALL speakers where the drive units are affixed to the baffle.
I wonder why some of these so called "ultra high end speakers (Magico, Yg Acoustics) don't use this type of design.
Is there a downside I am not considering?
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bo1972
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The biggest downside of B&W are there crossovers in general. I owned the 802N and 800S in the past. When I auditioned the 800D I stopped. Why? Because a deep and wide stage is the most stunning part in highend audio. When it is not there you miss the essential part to the absolute sound. At shows I hear it is still the same problem. The stage is not as wide and deep as could be. These days I only sell and focus on 3-diemnsional image for all my clients. Most shops still sell most of the time 2-dimensional sound, this is old fashion and less involving compared to 3-dimensional sound. I still send my clients to shops where they sell speakers like B&W to understand the difference between 3-dimensional and 2-dimensional sound. It is that simple!
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hifial
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OMG!!!! Bo the OP in NO way asked about the 2D- 3D that you use as an agenda to criticize B&W All OVER the forums. GIVE IT A REST ALREADY!!!!!! He asked about the design of how the woofers are attached to the baffle.

If you do not have a comment that is directly related to the OP why do you insist on posting the same CRAP over and over to the point that it is nauseating. WE get it, YOU ONLY LIKE A SPEAKER THAT CAN GIVE A 3D SOUND STAGE WITH A HUGE DEPTH AND WIDTH. AND ACCORDING TO YOU B&W DOES NOT.

And because you and you alone know what is best because you worked all those years in the business.

Get over yourself. YOU JUST HAVE NEVER SET UP B&W PROPERLY IN ORDER TO GET A 3D STAGE THAT IS DEEP AND WIDE FROM THEM.

What a troll.
dave_72
1,399 posts
 
wow, just wow. lol.
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