Shocking 3D sound in 2 channel

Happens all of the time when the moon,earth, and sun are all aligned with your temporal state of mind. In all seriousness, the elements of a 3D presentation are easily achieved once all of the factors mentioned above coalesce to form a soundscape which is perceived to be holographic. After I align the speakers, adjust the listening chair, and measure the room environment and add room treatments; the holographic experience happens as soon as I drop the needle on the record player.

I have successfully been able to recreate this feeling in various sized rooms. In my experiences, it seems that tube equipment and vinyl add to this experience more so than solid state components, again, my experience and also my listening experience. The exception to this was the DCS stack playing on all ultra high end equipment which sounded analog like and provided the 3D holography described above.

My newly acquired Mcintosh MVP 891 SACD player seems to come close to the sound of that DCS stack I heard about 5 years ago, therefore I listen to SACD 2 channel and surround audio about one third of the time now compared to records, which, for now, is still my favorite source medium. Technology advances are really helping us as a community to achieve outstanding results with a variety of sources and mediums.

Just sit back and listen to the music, you have reached nirvana. Congratulations.
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Yes, I WAS scared by the little Altecs. They are a single driver design and provide a very supple, smooth sound. I use them for background music, electronic lounge music. However, they really create an amazing soundfield and once in a while hit me with some 3D notes out of left field. However, they aren't going near my main system so don't worry!

12-31-13: Stringreen
Johnny53....it just might be your room.

Which one? I would say the beginning of this for me goes back to when I worked at a mid-fi/high end store in 1975, where the manager set up some Dahlquist DQ-10s with a pre-amp capable of depth layering. From then on, with 11 different sets of speakers in over a dozen different listening rooms driven by countless combinations of electronics on both coasts and in between, I have set up my system to get a strong center channel presence when on the source.

There are certain characteristics a speaker must have for this to happen, including fast transient response, good in-room power response without dramatic dips in the dispersion pattern, crossover design that keeps the waves pretty much in phase, etc. For example, phase-coherent speakers (e.g., Dahlquist, Thiel, Vandersteen) do this well, as do well-set-up planars. For dynamic speakers, a narrow front baffle helps.

Basically you need speakers that don't anchor the sound to themselves. Factors that call attention to the speakers include narrow dispersion, enclosure resonances, and wide baffles that smear the initial waves that come off the drivers. You also have to pay attention to how far the speakers are relative to the room and your listening position and also toe-in. Sometimes you need it, sometimes not.

The following provide tests, with which one may determine whether their system actually images, or reproduces a soundstage, as recorded. ie: On the Chesky sampler/test CD; David explains in detail, his position on the stage and distance from the mics, as he strikes a tambourine(Depth Test). The LEDR test tells what to expect, if your system performs well, before each segment. The Chesky CD contains a number of tests, in addition to the LEDR. (http://www.chesky.com/various-artists--jazz-sampler-amp-test-volume-1.html) (http://www.audiocheck.net/audiotests_ledr.php) BTW; The shape of your ears' pinnae is also a variable, regarding your ability to perceive images/locate sounds.

I have had 3D imaging with different six foot Magnepans since the 70's.

Room, amplification, source, positioning, and good recordings are essential.

I believe Panel speakers like Magneplanar and electrostatics work best at 3D.

If you do not get 3D, you do not have High End system, properly setup, in a decent room!

Buy Jim Smith's book "Get Better Sound".

Have not heard it too often in stores.