"Tuneful Bass" is how I described the base I heard on the Vandy's at Audio connection. He always has them set up properly right down to the cables that are realistic in whatever the price range of the speaker, so it's realistic.
I guess to me that meant that I heard bass the way it sounds when I hit my drums. It's got the proper speed, pitch and tonality. Sorry that my description didn't make sense. I have MS and often times don't make sense when I post on message boards, sorry.
As for the question, you will get everyone elses ears pointing you in one direction or the other. Go listen, especially if you have both speakers at the dealer. I was blown away by the Treo's as well as the rest of the updated Vandy line. I have been Proac for years. I got them over Maggies ironically as well as the ET's (my friend carried all three). I loved the Maggies and always have, however my ex didn't like panels in her house. I've been happy with the Proacs and they really sound incredible since I got my Ayre and Music Hall DAC 25.3 from Johnny.
For me, I've never heard subs integrate as well as when they are built into the speaker itself. That's just me. I think that for orchestral music (I don't listen to much of it), I need REAL bass and that means going deeper than 50hz. Vandy 2 sigs will give you real bass much lower I believe. I sure seems like it. If you are spending this kind of money on audio, why would you consider how difficult it is to set up? I never understood that part. Just take an extra hour of your time and set things up the way they should be set up. (not trying to be snide at all, so please don't take it that way). It's the least expensive and best tweek you can make in any system.
Whenever I go to someone's home I always notice how messed up the speakers placement is, don't most of you? If they just set them up properly, they would sound so much better. Aren't we the same way? Sorry, enough of that talk, lol.
I think Vandy's used to be a bit congested and I never could hear an unveiled sound with a soundstage. It may have been the way they were set up, but they just never sounded as great as my Proacs did. That was me then, but after going to Johnny's in NJ, I was blown away and I went in to buy the Proac D series.
As for the new Maggies, I've heard the new ones and liked them, but for me, I like that each speaker is time and phase correct full-range loudspeaker.
I've recently heard all the higher end Dynaudio, Vandy, Aerial, Totem, Maggie, Focal, B&W's, Proacs, Legacy, Wilson, PSB and Paradigm.
Each and everyone sound so different. In the price range you are in, you have to figure out what you can go without. Bass is expensive when done correctly, but it's also the foundation of music. Size really does matter. When I think of Timber, I think of Vandy right now, but that's just me.
I look forward to your thoughts after you A/B both. Make sure you listen with the amps, cables and source that you'll use with either. That's the most important thing obviously. I really do look forward to reading what your own ears like and not ours.
Good luck and have a ball with it.
I guess to me that meant that I heard bass the way it sounds when I hit my drums. It's got the proper speed, pitch and tonality. Sorry that my description didn't make sense. I have MS and often times don't make sense when I post on message boards, sorry.
As for the question, you will get everyone elses ears pointing you in one direction or the other. Go listen, especially if you have both speakers at the dealer. I was blown away by the Treo's as well as the rest of the updated Vandy line. I have been Proac for years. I got them over Maggies ironically as well as the ET's (my friend carried all three). I loved the Maggies and always have, however my ex didn't like panels in her house. I've been happy with the Proacs and they really sound incredible since I got my Ayre and Music Hall DAC 25.3 from Johnny.
For me, I've never heard subs integrate as well as when they are built into the speaker itself. That's just me. I think that for orchestral music (I don't listen to much of it), I need REAL bass and that means going deeper than 50hz. Vandy 2 sigs will give you real bass much lower I believe. I sure seems like it. If you are spending this kind of money on audio, why would you consider how difficult it is to set up? I never understood that part. Just take an extra hour of your time and set things up the way they should be set up. (not trying to be snide at all, so please don't take it that way). It's the least expensive and best tweek you can make in any system.
Whenever I go to someone's home I always notice how messed up the speakers placement is, don't most of you? If they just set them up properly, they would sound so much better. Aren't we the same way? Sorry, enough of that talk, lol.
I think Vandy's used to be a bit congested and I never could hear an unveiled sound with a soundstage. It may have been the way they were set up, but they just never sounded as great as my Proacs did. That was me then, but after going to Johnny's in NJ, I was blown away and I went in to buy the Proac D series.
As for the new Maggies, I've heard the new ones and liked them, but for me, I like that each speaker is time and phase correct full-range loudspeaker.
I've recently heard all the higher end Dynaudio, Vandy, Aerial, Totem, Maggie, Focal, B&W's, Proacs, Legacy, Wilson, PSB and Paradigm.
Each and everyone sound so different. In the price range you are in, you have to figure out what you can go without. Bass is expensive when done correctly, but it's also the foundation of music. Size really does matter. When I think of Timber, I think of Vandy right now, but that's just me.
I look forward to your thoughts after you A/B both. Make sure you listen with the amps, cables and source that you'll use with either. That's the most important thing obviously. I really do look forward to reading what your own ears like and not ours.
Good luck and have a ball with it.