Set Overhang on arm w/adjustable tracking angle


I am setting up a Clearaudio Satisfy 9" straight tonearm that is infinitely adjustable for tracking angle. I have set up the 222mm pivot-to-spindle distance. Now I need to set the overhang to 14mm. Since I have to twist the cartridge to set the tracking angle (which is unknown), how do I set the overhang? Both the overhang and the Lofgren alignment require twisting the cartridge. In other words, I don't think I can set the overhang unless the Lofgren alignment is achieved, but I can't set the Lofgren alignment until the overhang is measured. In addition, I have to measure the overhang after the cartridge is twisted. Is this a case where I just have to adjust both alignment and overhang until I measure 14mm overhang and the correct Lofgren alignment?
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Doug,
I know there was a large variation in that cartridge dimension in the "good old days" but I was under the impression this had more or less standardised on 9.5mm. So aligning the pivot to that dimension on the assumption it will be within a mm or two must introduce less error by almost a factor of 10 when rotating the cartridge than if the pivot is 9.5mm away.

A facility for an adjustable pivot to stylus distance together with a cartridge mount that only rotates is another way to do it to avoid the two settings interacting. But then an arc protractor couldn't be used. It would have to be one based on the Dennesen principle or a standard two point.
John

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Thanks for all your responses. They have confirmed my suspicions of how to align the cartridge. Here's why I was confused: The arm and turntable I have included the Clearaudio protractor, but there were no instructions for using it. I was confused because it only has a single null point printed on it.

Recently, I learned that I was missing the instructions for the protractor. There is no mention of its use in the instructions for setting up the arm. I found a manual online for the Unify arm which described the way to set up the protractor. Essentially, there are two lines within which you align the wand. Then you set up the cartridge at the single null point as you do with any arm. Why there's only one null point, I can't say.

Set up was finicky, for sure, but I got everything lined up properly and proceeded to trash the tip of the cartridge. First time that's happened in 40 years! So, one cartridge to Soundsmith and a spare installed.

All's good. Thanks again for all your help.

GP
GP,

Sorry to hear of your mishap... ouch!

FWIW, the protractor Clearaudio supplied pretty much guarantees imprecise results. It's very difficult to ascertain whether you're sighting along the correct axes when centering the armwand or when squaring the cantilever. Move your head even a tiny amount and everything changes. Additionally, with just one null point you can't even double check your alignment at another point on the record. They probably chose it for its apparent simplicity to avoid intimidating customers, but better tools are available if you're fussed about such things.

You'd probably hear audible improvements with a better protractor, but whether you do or not... enjoy the music!