Turnable database with TimeLine

I wish my DP45 had speed adjustability. I would have tried to get it a bit more accurate before taking the video.

Nice start Peter....
Obviously something is wrong with the Denon.....but the SME 30/12 puts in a solid performance....particularly for a belt drive which mostly find it hard to compete with the old Japanese 'super' DD models?

This should be a chance to see how the much vaunted big Micro Seikis like the SX/RX-5000 and SX/RX 8000 models compete?
Also Dover's Final Parthenon which he claims is 'spot-on' with the Timeline?

This would also be an opportunity for the 'modern' turntable manufacturers to display their credentials....particularly against the 30-40 year-old Japanese DDs?
How about the top Clearaudios, the Walker Proscenium, the VPIs, the Linn Sondek, the Continuum Caliburn, the Brinkmann, the Basis, the Feikert, the Verdier, the Kuzma, the TW-Acustic, the SOTA....and particularly...the new AirForce One?

And how about the modern DD turntables like the new VPI, the Wave Kinetics NVS, the Monaco Grand Prix?

I would also love to see how the old Idler/Rim Drives perform?
Like the Garrard 301 and 401, the Thorens, the Lenco and particularly the legendary EMT 927?

And then there's the new Idlers like the Saskia which reports excellent performance?

I know there is a lot more to a great turntable than keeping absolute and/or consistent speed 'under load'......but surely that needs to the 'a priori' fundamental?
If that 'objective' quality can not be delivered.....all the bells and whistles which some tables claim to contain.....seem slightly redundant?

Of course two problems exist in trying to add these tables to the DataBank.....
1. An owner/manufacturer needs to have or borrow a Timeline
2. They need to know how to video it and upload it to YouTube

Good luck in your quest.....

Also, watching Halcro's videos, it's interesting how some audiophiles just drop the cartridge on the record.

Perhaps you should buy a tonearm with hydraulic action lifting and lowering...as all my six arms have?
No human can lower the cartridge more gently that these.... :-)

Halcro,

Yes, something must be wrong with the Denon, though it actually sounds pretty
good. Thanks for posting the results of the Raven. It appears to be slightly slow.
One of the design differences with the SME is that the length of "free
belt" between the platter and motor pulley is much less on the SME. Both
tables appear to have heavy platters and robust motors. Is the Raven motor
controller adjustable?

You wrote somewhere that despite the superior speed performance of your
Victor that you do enjoy the Raven for its "musicality." Can you
actually hear a difference in speed between the two tables, or do other factors
like table/arm/cartridge differences make the speed differences too difficult to
single out? Do you hear differences in timing, drive, rhythm, clarity in transients,
etc? Which table do you prefer to listen to overall?

I don't know how many new videos will be added. I hope some are. I've heard of
various TimeLine results with the NVS, TechDas and SP10MK3, but owners may
be reluctant to share these results publicly. I'm particularly interested in results
from the Micros, the TechDas, the Saskia and some of the modern DD tables.

This test really just measure average speed accuracy. It does not tell us much
about what is happening to the platter at the moment of a large transient.
Perhaps some information can be learned from the quality and length of the
TimeLine dash on the wall and how solid and consistent it is. There is also the
issue of the weight of the TimeLine itself introducing a different load to the
system being tested. I've read that this would effect an open loop system on
some belt-drives more than the closed loop system on your Victor and other DD
tables. This is one of the primary criticisms I've read of this TimeLine device.