Turnable database with TimeLine


Here is a database showing various turntables being tested for speed accuracy and speed consistency using the Sutherland TimeLine strobe device. Members are invited to add their own videos showing their turntables.

Victor TT-101 with music

Victor TT-101 stylus drag

SME 30/12

Technics SP10 MK2a

Denon DP-45F
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03-06-12: Dover
Doesn't this discussion on DD servos highlight the question, does a very high mass platter, with very high inertia, driven by a high torque motor with a belt, thread or fluid drive with built in slippage, such that the platter mass will drive through any load fluctuations sound better than a DD with its constant speed correction.
Dover,
Perhaps your memory is fading?
You have mistakenly attributed the following quote to Richardkrebs.
No,,,,,I was responding to Richardkrebs answer to Don_c55 about smearing of the soundwave due to speed fluctuations.
If you...or anyone else thought that quote was attributed to Richard....my apologies.
I communicated directly with Peter Moncrieff and obtained his permission in writing prior to posting his entire article on these Forums nearly 3 years ago.
Perhaps you even read them here at that time?
Dover,
You seem to be full of suggestions for how people should submit their tests....yet you have not posted a single video of your 'famous' Final Parthenon performing with the Timeline in any fashion whatsoever?
Up till now....my videos and that of the Fat Bob turntable used in the Timeline promotion on YouTube....are the only ones to my knowledge which demonstrate the reaction of the Timeline with the cartridge both playing the record and being dropped and/or lifted from the record.
In both cases with a BELT-DRIVE turntable (as I have emphasised several times in this Thread).....there is a retardation of the Timeline dash due to 'stylus drag'.
There are many on this Forum who claim that a BELT-DRIVE turntable with a high-mass platter and well regulated motor....will not be subjected to 'stylus drag'.
I am still skeptical about this....and we have seen no evidence with the Timeline that this is possible?
Hopefully someone will demonstrate such a phenomena?
Did you miss the reference to 'belt-drive' again Dover?

Until you start providing the visual evidence of your many claims.....I would suggest a modicum of restraint in your 'rules and regulations'?
While I agree that it would be best for every test to use the same LP, this is likely an unrealistic requirement since it presupposes that every tester has this disc.
Futher " The sum total of the error at the end of the test would be truely comparable between turntables"
This would not necessarily be an informative result.
Say a TT that isn't speed stable, which has adjustment is set for correct speed at moderate groove modulation. When playing heavy grooves it may under speed when playing light grooves it may over speed. The average speed over the test could be correct with the laser back on its starting point at the end, apparently passing the test.
The no load followed by some, ideally standard, heavy grooves is an arduous test. If it passes this it is likely that it would pass real world playback.
This provided the laser is observed under no load conditions and this is the control, (TT adjusted if possible, necessary, to zero drift)
Also if a TT passes this test it would be reasonable to assume that it would be ok with light grooves.
But, as I implied with the Goldmund comments, we are not seeing how the TT performs at a note by note level.