Cables more hype than value?

02-18-13: Tobb
I stand to be corrected!
We did a test this weekend with an 800.00 pair of interconnects that a contact loaned us and a 60.00 pair.
I can hear the difference but it was not in favor of the 800.00 pair.

The $800 cable is highlighting flaws in your system/components so the less expensive is a superior match. You are building a SYSTEM of components and they all have to work/integrate well together.

If you put a Porsche engine in a Yugo, the extra hp and torque will highlight the chassis, suspension ... flaws in the Yugo. It doesn't mean the Porsche engine is bad and not worth the $ but just in a wrong system/car. So obviously the Yugo orig engine is better in a Yugo.

02-20-13: Bander
I wonder who's more fortunate, those whose hearing is so compromised that differences between cables can't be discerned or those like myself who have spent not a small amount of money on cables and experience huge sonic benifits. Can't we just all get along?

That's easy, I rather have a high resolution system where I can detect all changes than someone using a boom box or/and deaf.

02-21-13: Audiolabyrinth
@ rok2id,Hi, I do not want to make you angry like some of the other people on this forum,so please excuse me,It ...

I understand most members want to be respectful and not come across as snobs but you wasting your breath. You can talk all you want but unless they experience it for themselves, they will never believe you. This is TRUE with everything and not just Audio cables.

I'm into cars and some of my friends don't understand the fascination for Porsches. Once they experience driving one themselve, all agree their is NO SUBSTITUDE!

02-23-13: Almarg ... Concerning the broader issue that is being, um, discussed here, I would point out that a belief that cables can sound different, to which I subscribe, says nothing about the degree of correlation that can be expected between cable performance and cable price.

No kidding, what commodity does? Cars, clothing ... up to the individual consume to decide for themselves.

@ jmcgrogan2 and nonoise, thankyou gentlemen,I can tell the both of you are seasoned audiophiles to know what I do and why!,happy listening to all!

Why does it matter so much to non-believers, that some of us believe?

For two reasons:

1. It gives technically astute people, who many of us admire and value the opinions of, a negative view of those of people active in high-end audio. The cable lie reflects poorly on all of us.

2. Active recruitment of new disciples into the cable cult tempts us to argue, to prevent others from swallowing the lie.

****1. It gives technically astute people, who many of us admire and value the opinions of, a negative view of those of people active in high-end audio. The cable lie reflects poorly on all of us.****

The implication being that no believers are technically astute. Clearly, not the case. How does one explain the many clearly "technically astute " individuals who are believers. It is true that there is a lot of hype; but that, in no way, suggests that it is ALL hype. To suggest otherwise is the worst example of lack of astuteness.

****2. Active recruitment of new disciples into the cable cult tempts us to argue, to prevent others from swallowing the lie.****

I will ask the question again: why does it matter so much to you? Why not be secure in your belief (or lack thereof), and leave at that?

Irvrobinson:

Well said. I think I detected a little Aczelian influence.

Last night I reread his review of the Parasound A21 power amp. How refreshing to read a real review. I really miss his input. he was the last of a kind. The only thing between truth and the charlatans.

He quit his 'hip-boots' articles because he said the ENTIRE audio media industry was now corrupt, so there was no need to point of the voodoo priests, since they are all now selling snake oil.

Have you noticed that a lot of these people can't read. They call the words, but they cannot comprehend. Check out the 'Frogman's response to your post. How in God's name did he come to understand that you said all non-believers were techically astute. It's like talking to a wall. They just regurgitate what they have been told.

I have to read Peter every now and then just to cleanse my head of all the nonsensical claptrap you read here on this forum. The ignorance and gullibility is absolutely breathtaking.

When someone 'accused' me of trying to 'save' them, I knew it was time to move on.

Good luck to you.

Cheers