new CJ sound compared to old CJ sound


I am considering going back to a CJ linestage. Having owned the ART, the 16LS series 1 , and the premier 14 , I am familiar with the great dynamics, dimensionality, and that draw you in to the music quality those units had while in front of my old premier 8a amps. I was wondering if any of you have had any experience w/ the CT-5 or ACT2, and how the new CJ house sound may compare w/ the previous units I have owned. It would not be much of a surprise to hear the newer models are quieter, more dynamic, and have greater detail, but do they still retain all the qualities of the older units while doing so?
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i have little experience with CJ - i've heard their solid-state power amps MF2250 (if I remember the model # correctly). I've also heard a couple preamps of theirs - one of them I cannot recall the model # (the reason for this is that its sound was very 'blah') & the other one was the 16LS Mk2. The 16LS Mk2 sound was very good - great details, soundstage depth & width &, for me, it was atypical of CJ, which IMHO was a very sleepy sound. I also understand that the 16LS Mk1 was even better! Prior to listening to the 16LS Mk2, my opinions reflect that of member Dazzdax - a sound I'd rather forget!
However, it seems like CJ has woken up from a deep slumber [maybe a beautiful princess kissed Conrad or Johnson or both! :-)] & I'm happy that they have. For such a great name in audio to be slumbering was a travesty. If their newer gear is anything like the 16LS Mk2 then the customers seemingly can have their cake & eat it too - sonic accuracy with optimum colour. The sound of their newer gear appears to be truer to the recorded medium & I'm happy to note that. Now, if we can only arrange that price........
Thank you Brent for the kind words.

While I never thought of CJ preamps as sounding 'blah' or 'sleepy', I agree with Bombaywalla that the 16LS represents a less caramel-colored, less yin-like approach. This is not to say that current models do not reflect the CJ heritage. Rich harmonics, superb dynamics and timing, clarity, focus, vitality, and a lower noise floor - yes, imo, the top of the line continues to progress quite nicely, and the mid-lower price points benfit from their innovations. While reflecting its heritage, the ACT2 is, at the same time, a magical leap forward - a preamp so good I found it far easier to listen to than think about - which is a good place to be!
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I agree with all the positive comments on the new generation c-j preamps.

The new c-j preamps raison d'etre is preserving the soul of the music. You will hear how artists play their instruments and how they deliver their vocal lines. You will also hear harmony/melody finally brought forth from your favorite recordings. Simply put, c-j unleashes the music in your system!*>)
interestingly there are 3 ACT2's for sale on audiogon.

for me and my musical tastes I believe the new cj pre amps go just a liitle too far in the search for neutrality. that is a pity as I have always liked cj products and for the first time in almost 10 years I have none.
Interesting thread because I have been noticing the change too. I recently auditioned a ton of the latest CJ gear and compared to the older ones I have (and had), I find the new stuff does indeed head for greater neutrality and resolution. There seems to be less body to it now - and I find that a shame because 3D imaging suffers as a result. But like everything else, you have to match it to the right source and speakers - it is just a little tougher to get it right with the new gear.

Arthur