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Trelja, you are absolutely right. It is so easy to hide behind a screen and try to bully or intimadate others. I wonder how many new people visit this site and are afraid to ask questions because of some idiot who thinks he has all the answers will beat up on them. I look at them as having no useful info but rather a look at me aint I God's gift to the audiophile attitude. If it were one on one person to person, I doubt very much these cowards would ever say a word. Anyone new to Audiogon do not let these clowns intimidate you.

Trelja, you took it seriously, I was merely trying to be humourous. The love from you guys is overhelming "at this time of year". If you think me such the moron, that I think I'm infallable, you are quite incorrect. And if being younger than you makes me "a boy", then I'll wear it with a badge of honor. You don't need to fax me anything, I have the magazine a few feet from me in a stack, just haven't had time to dig through it. For whatever the reason you are angry with me Trelja, I'm sure you're man enough to get a better sense of humor, and realize when someone is using "ribbing" humor. This is a type of humor that I get from others every time I post here, and when it irks me, I'm told to "chill out" and "don't be so tense". You might give this a try also, Trelja. AND IF I AM WRONG, I'LL ADMIT IT FREELY; BUT THEN NONE OF YOU BETTER FREAKING GLOAT ABOUT IT, EITHER...since you are implying that you think I like to gloat....unless of course you want to be thought of as a mere boy. "I'm a monkeyman..."

Carl, my deepest apologies! !!!I READ YOU COMPLETELY WRONG!!! I have said it. And I am standing up now to admit it. Anyone who wants to take a free shot at me, go ahead. I can take it. I see the feuds you get in with people(filled with acid), and thought we were heading down the same road. I offer peace to everyone, but don't have a problem getting into a fight. We are the SAME age, 31. Not sure who is "technically" younger, as my birthday is June 13th, 1969. You can settle that one... As far as humor goes, if you knew me, you would see that I have been the class clown since the day I was born. Actually, my greatest skill in life is imitating people, and I almost got a job on a local radio station impersonating voices in a comedic way. Too bad for me that I didn't follow through on it, as the guy who does is now a big star in Philly. Six figure salary. Everyone who hears me says I am funnier, and that my impersonations are superior. No regrets though, I love coding in C++/Oracle in UNIX OS. Kind of fun really, I learn new things everyday. To me, challenges in life are what motivates me, and I definitely get that. So, again I AM SORRY. And glad to move on from here. Incidentally, the Stereophile article doesn't list the driver model number(only that it's polypropylene) in the Eggleston, but I will give it to you(in case you ever want to try it - GREAT driver). MW162 is the standard Morel paper coned version. MW164 is the double magnet, paper coned driver(that is most used). And MW166 is the polymer coned version of the MW164, it's the one used by Eggleston. Take care.

I know the drivers, I own two 164's, and have the Solen catalog (it has a detailed list of all drivers). It's a shame that you didn't get to do the radio gig, sounds like it'd be fun. (Do you ever hear the "Johnboy and Billy Show", out of Charlotte NC? It's hilarious, but mostly geared for southern folk. The best skit is called "married man", but there are many others). And there was no real need for you to apologize. I am still going to look the article up, probably tonight. BTW, you seem to know a lot about drivers. Did you know that, for some reason, Morel makes the 160 series either with 3, or 4 ridges in the spider (yet they spec them the same, and do not distinguish these differences with the serial #)? They can even be manufactured in the same series, and still have either one of the # of ridges? Anyways, I had to keep exchanging mine until I got two that had the same # of ridges (I wanted 4, rather than 3). I spoke with someone at the manufacturer in Israel thru e-mail, and they claimed that there would be no difference in any of the parameters (qms, for instance), but I had my doubts, so I wanted to get a pair that had the same number of ridges.

Trelja, I am both humbled and saddened with myself. I apologize for not doing this sooner. You were very right about the Stereophile article (I knew you were, but I wanted to check on something else before getting back to you here). I WAS VERY WRONG. I now remember reading it back then, and thinking that something was wrong with the review, but now I know that I myself must have been wrong (that indeed a paper version was NEVER used in the Andra...they do claim as always, that what is used is a "custom" version of the 166). And clearly on the cover photo (October 1997), they are polypropyelene. It is possible that for some reason, I mixed up the sentiments in Morel's own product literature, with that of an interview with Bill Eggleston that I read SOMEWHERE (and I know not where, apparently it wasn't Stereophile...unless it was some followup in mid '98, those are buried somewhere around here...could have been in some other mag, and perhaps I didn't buy the issue), where he was talking about the speaker projects he used to build with his father, using a paper cone midwoofer "because of the quality of the midrange, due to the superior damping characteristics of treated paper as cone material".........The quote I remember well, but I know not where it came from...other than my malfunctioning brain. It could have even been a review of another Eggleston speaker like the Rosa, but I don't know. I just looked up the Andra review in my July/August 1996 issue of Fi, and there is no interview with Eggleston himself there either, but instead much discussion of Peter McGrath's demos of the speaker. In any case, it seems to me that Eggleston should have used the paper 164 instead, because it's hi-frequency response clearly rolls off more smoothly than the polypropylene 166, and indeed the 164's rolloff is smoother (and in a gradual/gentle way) than that of ANY other midwoofer in the world, it seems to me. This seems especially appropriate, since there is no low pass crossover used with them in the Andra. I mean, show me a driver response plot that proves otherwise? In any case, you were correct, and I am eating crow. And, no, all of this isn't really worth debating anyhow..................I am now going to cease posting in this forum, I have had enough. I look forward to reading these forums on occasion, where I will hope to see your knowledgeable and helpful personality on display here, especially since you have the right attitudes with regard to the speaker building hobby (and most audiophiles do not, that is a certainty in my own experience)! You are a class act all the way, Trelja! I wish you all the best for 2001, and for your system!!! Happy listening always. Regards, Carl