Sovtek 6550 - Can they really be THIS bad???


Hello.

Just picked up a new Jadis today, and I'm none too pleased with the sound. As I have had blissful sonic experiences with two of the models lower on the Totem Pole from this manufacturer, the only thing I can trace it to is the Sovtek 6550. Can they really be THIS bad???

I already switched out the JAN Philips 12AX7 and Golden Dragon 12AU7 for Mullard Blackburn and Ei respectively. The improvement has been subtle, but it still ain't working for me...

I have used ElectroHarmonix 6550 in the past, and while they didn't float my boat, I'm told that EH represents a signficant step up from the regular old Sovteks. JJ E34L and KT88 just have sounded really splendid to me. So, now I'm looking at picking up 8 new output tubes if I don't wish to live with such uninspired sound.
trelja
I recently bought a pair of used VTL 750's from an authorized dealer who had completely re tubed these amps with matched Sovtek 6550's.

These particular tubes were TRADE MARKED as "Svetlana" which are the same tubes as Sovtek / Electro Harmonix for those that don't know the name Svetlana was bought by a large distributor.

The dealer said they had 200 hours on them and testing with my Hickok 752A tester showed no shorts, no gas and "new" transconductance readings.

After listening to these for about a month, and unable to get rid of high frequency distortion and dissatisfied with imaging and dynamics, I replaced all 24 Sovtek/Svetlana 6550's with new SED Wing C 6550's.

The upgrade was almost equivalent to replacing the amps. Everyone who visited the next Tuesday listening session (with only 10 hours on them) asked where the upgrade came from.

Can't wait to hear what the Wing C can do when they are completely settled in. I think this is the best new 6550 around and as others have already commented, the Sovtek may be the worst.

If anyone wants these Sovtek / Svetlana, I will be practically giving them away. Look for on an ad at Audiogon soon.
I feel I should add this for those that don't already know.

The Svetlana 6550, EL34 (etc) of three years ago is the SED Wing C of today.

Those who sing the praises of Svetlana bought some time ago are saying they like the (present) SED Wing C.

Same tube !

It's unfortunate that this confusion exists. The trademark lapsed or was negotiated for, I don't know the legal part involved.

Bottom line is the names Sovtek, Svetlana, Tung Sol, Mullard and Electro-Harmonix are all owned by ONE COMPANY. They market various tubes, very similar in construction, and all produced in the Reflector (Reflektor) plant in Russia.

SED Wing C was the previous owner of the name Svetlana and responsible for giving it the sterling reputation that made the trademark valuable. The SED is built in a completely different factory in St. Petersburg.

Hope the above explanation helps more than confuses.
someone mentioned you have the DA60??

if so, I encountered the same issue you had with this amp. I bought one about 2 years ago and was blown away with cosmetics, impressed with the build, ..I had high high hopes.

I had upgraded from the Jadis cheaper integrated......

i tried Ge6550s, el34s, kt88s, swapped out the small signal tubes but just could not get this amp to sound "tubey". ....Jadis had always been described as warm and tubey in regards to the Defy7,.....I concluded that the Da60 and the other integrated was just a darker sounding tube amp.....not my taste...I sold the Da60 and went to Air Tight amps and have not looked back
Albert, the Svetlana tubes sold on the website I mentioned here earlier, are indeed the ones manufactured in the St. Petersburg factory. They are listed on that site as SV 6550C, whatever that means. I've done business with Eugene, (a Russian BTW) and he does a great job matching them, basically at no extra charge, because that's the only
way he sells them.

N

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Cool, further explanation of why you like and recommend them. We choose the same tube :^).

The name change is very confusing, probably only helpful to the new trade mark holder who is selling off the reputation of the previous factorys work.

As for comments by Justlisten, I would take that to heart. By no means am I suggesting the answer to your problems are switching to the same tubes I bought.

I do think it's important for everyone to report their experience with performance of various tubes so each can make up their own mind.