CJ vs. BAT vs. THOR preamps, who's best?

can one of these preamps be the best, when they all sound different ? what does best mean ? what are the criteria for sonic excellence ?

John... you got a point there. Ego's a big deal with some folks in this hobby. A big deal. your point is quite valid though... if everything is on the square. I'd have loved to have tried out a thing which would have saved me a grand and some... for sure. i'd not do it now though. i'd feel way bad knowing I've already made a decision. sure wished I had known about the damn remote thingy sooner. I'd have taken a shot too. But I'm big on "Things always work out" so perhaps they did, huh? we'll see soon enough.

Photon46
Don't hold your breath. i was in there a couple years ago for a look see at a Linn int. When I saw it, and was told it needed special spkr wire connectors, and later found out the 75wpc were into 4 ohms vs 8. I declined. called back and said as much. During that deal they had some Revel studio 100s on clearance. $8K.. played it on the ayre gear then too. No dice for me. so they told me about the same thing you said. They were getting 3.6s in a couple weeks and to hear them before making a choice. I quit holding my breath before i got to the door. the Studios? they played them like they would blow up if played for more than 2 minutes. Apparently they've not made any changes in how they feel an audition should be done... I've had sneezes that took longer to finish.

Mrtennis

Now some year and change later, i sought herein to provide some closure as to the fact I wasn't wasting others' time, and tell all what I ultimately decided upon. That's all. to be sure during that time, I also learned much as to the objectivvity surrounding components. I ammended that misbegotten entry above.

But you are indeed correcct. Who's best is only answered by the buyer. The owner... and maybe not even then as more compromise went into the buying decision than was wanted for whatever reason (s). I apologize. Again. Eye of the beholder, and all that jazz.

The only pre I could not check out was the BAT. Also, had I not tried something different and found it to work beyond my expectations, and then sold my dear vk5i, I would not have put myself into a position to bet another either. I had to give myself a reason to "get off the dime" and do somethign. Taking action as is so appropriately espoused here, is indeed the best way to know. As my friend John says all the time... do the Audiogone "Buy & Try" shuffle. then, you know.

Well, you'll know some waht better... but I believe from experience, you'll only know for sure after doing the "mix and match" shuffle with wires on it too... and isoing... there is more to this deal than simple swapping of components in and out of ones' system to get the very best from them, as we have all seen. Everything makes a diff.

Truly, there is no 'best' there is only best for you. you gotta make that call. No one else Most times. I did buy the BAT gear only from other's opinions. they weren't a bad choice. Not at all, but I sure did a lot of other stuff to them afterwards.

Jim,

Should I copyright that 'AudiogoN Buy & Try Shuffle' phrase?

John :)

it's all your's John, help yourself.

cj has too soft a sound like macintosh bat reeks musically
and do know thor but stick to names you can resell and trade up one day. May I suggest the CAT ULTIMATE which is probably the best on earth for the price, and even the phone stage rocks!dynamic and musical and accurate. for better sonics always stick with tubes if you can. GET
vAC 160 MUSIC BLOCKS with the cat or cd direct and no pre..you will be happy...