Passive Preamps: Jumping Ship

I normally use my tube preamp with my CJ Premier 11a tube amp but I also own an Adcom GFP-750. The Adcom sounds life less in passive mode compared to active. I suppose system matching must be very precise for a passive preamp to sound decent. ???

I was using the anlogue outputs of my Theta Miles cd player (balanced upgrade) for the past year or so, and just finally splurged to get a preamp for my system (a BAt vk-31). Your discription parallels mine. More presence, more fullness, more depth (increased bass?), the notes for example on some Maria Callas that I use as a reference much more "there" and rich.

I haven't noticed the lack of transparancey because I've been so taken by the increase in body and presence. There might be a few less creaks and whispers, but it is more than made up for the increase in growls and moans (? that make sense?)

pcanis

When customers ask, I tell them passive attenuators are like kissing thre most beautiful woman in the world....

But she keeps her lips tight.

So guys go back and forth...seeking more romance. A preamp is there to add color. You certainly don't need one to cut the gain of your CD layer in half.

I've had many pre-amps both passive and active. I've always found that the circuitry in active pre-amps causes colorations, as stated above by Kevin from Upscale Audio. Sometimes this is a good thing, as in the case of the Wyetech Opal. Sometimes not. I would prefer transparency in my system to any colorations.

The active circuitry in active pre-amps is also subtractive in detail as well as transparency. I have to laugh at reviewers who say that the active pre-amp they are reviewing has "no sound at all". How would they know? They are only comparing it to the pre-amp already in their system. Reviewers who fairly review pre-amps have some type of DAC or source with a volume control that let's them test the credibility of the "no sound at all" statement. I have never seen any reviewer using this technique make that statement, and the conclusion they ultimately make is that they prefer the system without the active pre-amp.

Passives are more transparent, but inevitably limit dynamics and bass. I have found two solutions. The first is the RDP-1 from Z-Systems. It is a digital pre-amp that goes between your transport and DAC, and controls volume in the digital domain. It is also a digital equalizer. The second is the Silver Rock passive from the Swiss company Audio Consulting. It is a completely silver wired transformer/potentiometer with dual mono construction. Neither of these pre-amps limits dynamics or bass, and the transparency is stunning. TAS reviewed the Silver Rock a few months ago, and compared it to some very high-end active pre-amps. The actives were less transparent, and were grainy in the mids and highs when compared to the Silver Rock. They also commented positively on the Silver Rock when they reviewed the Halcro amps.

The Silver Rock sometimes causes grounding problems when put in your system, and is a bit finicky about other equipment. It also isn't the most beautiful piece of equipment around, has no remote control, and is very expensive for a passive. Although I would add that, judged solely on sound quality, it's a bargain.

Both are wonderful solutions to volume control in a CD only system. I have both at the moment, and will sell one in the near future after I decide which I like the best.