tubed preamp off and ss amp left on?


Why can't I leave my my ss amp turned on with the tubed preamp turned off? Loud hum occurs through speakers with this condition. When I had a ss preamp I could leave the amp powered all the time with the pre off. I would leave all powered up but concerned about the preamp tubes wearing prematurely. Is it a reasonable conclusion that I could leave everything powered on all the time and just change the tubes once per year?
twc
I had the same issue with a given combination of components, and never really resolved it. My preamp had mute, volume down, etc - all these things didn't stop the hum when the amp was on and the pre was off. Also, this didn't occur on all amps, just one. And that one amp didn't have the problem with other pre's. I really don't know. Have you tried floating the ground on various components? Unplug all the sources from your pre and see if the hum goes away. Then float the ground on your pre with a cheater and see the same thing. Please let us know what works, if you find it.

Best, Peter
Sounds like some type of grounding problem to me...Ir would be interesting to see what would happen if you lifted the ground...Just a thought
12-17-06: Warrenh
Funny, I had posted a similar question a few weeks ago, having come back to seperates after over 20 years. If the volume is down on the preamp, should it matter which you shut off first? Nowhere in my amp or preamp manual does it say to be certain to shut off first or last. I think volume down on the pre is the answer?

When the power switch is turned off a voltage transient spike may pass thru the preamp outputs thru the ics to the Amp. Result, a loud pop. This will happen even if the volume pot is all the way down.

My Sonic Frontiers line One preamp, when placed in standby before shutting down the preamp, apparently shunts the outputs of the preamp thus preventing the voltage transients. That is the reason in my earlier post I suggested trying the mute function if the preamp has one. The mute circuit in the preamp may shunt the outputs, thus, no transient spike leaving the preamp thru the ics to the amp.....
Thanks for the responses. I just rechecked and the loud hum when pre is off and amp on is gone. Why? I do not know. I have made many changes lately trying to get rid of a low level hum in speakers when nothing is playing. This hum is still present. I have tried cheater plugs on two of the 3 components and the low level hum persists. Audible out to 2-3 ft from speakers. I have one more pair of interconnects to change. I doubt it helps but hopeful it will. If not I am going to change back to my old amp and see. BTW, the pre is lector zoe and amp is belles 350a reference. Other amp is aloia st15.01. What are the symptoms of an impedence mismatch? Can tubes create hum? I don't remember having this problem with stock tubes. May put them back in also. Thanks again.
Twc, if your cable tv is nearby, you should also try disconnecting the coax cable tv wire at its first point of entry and then turn your rig on and see if the hum is gone. If there's no more hum, you need a ground loop isolator which will take care of this issue for you.