Thanks for the respones. Right now I have a Modwright SE preamp. And Channel Island Audio 200 monoblocks class D amps. Imput impedance is 100k ohms for CIA. Signal Cable Silver Resolution everything for cables and interconnects, inductance 0.13 uh/ft. Avalon Opus Ceramique speakers. The first thing I did was try my back up amp, a 400 watt Belles solid state amp, imput impedance 25,000 ohms or 25k. Same thing, bass a light distant rumble. I do not know enough about impedance to know if thats a mismatch. I will be getting a BAT VK-75 this week from a nice gentle man here on Audiogon. As soon as I get a set of balanced cables from Signal Cable so I can hook up the VK-75, I'll find out if it's the impedance. Thanks again!