New monoblocs for Maxx II, which ones

Oneobgyn,

I have had a similar experience as Cytocycle with the DarTZeel amp myself. (However, not with the Maxx II's, as I have no experience with them, other than hearing them breifly at a dealers.)

My friend uses the Lamm M2.2s, (the 220 wpc successcor to the 200 wpc M2.1s, that I use). He used to use Avalon Eidolons, and when he upgraded to the Rockport Antares, (a more efficient speaker), he decided to test out the DarTZeel amp, as a local seller of one happened to pop up on Audiogon. We listened to both, and while the DarTZeel is an excellent amp (my favorite solid state amp, btw), it did indeed run out of gas trying to get the last bit of bass response out of the Rockports. We both preferred the Lamms to the DarTZeel, mostly due to the bass response, (We liked the treble of the Lamms better too, but I almost think that was more of a preference, rather than one being clearly better than the other.)

My two cents worth.

I have to somehow agree with Oneobgyn. I have had Lamm M1.2 Reference monos and have had absolutely no problems driving my 87dB efficient Avalons Eidolon Vision.

FWIW

http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/lamm_m12_followup.htm

http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/lamm_ml11.htm

http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/rise39.htm

Marc Mickelson uses ML 2.1's for his AXX ll's

http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/wilson_maxx_2.htm

I will say again, for my ears the ML 2.1 is simply the best amp yhat I have ever owned and I have owned many

Elberoth2: Your Avalons are only a minimal 3.6ohm load the Lamm M1.2's will drive those perfectly, it's not the watts it is the current delivery with Wilson Maxx's and Watt Puppies 7's. My Watt Puppy 7 were a minimal 2.73 ohm load at 70hz. The Wilson Maxx II are a 3ohm minimal so they aren't as hard a load to drive, and therefore the M1.2 or M1.1's might work better, but unless you really need the extra 50watts of Class A, I would go with the M2.2 or M2.1's.

But as others keep suggesting Lamm ML2.1'sound like the perfect match.... or big VTL's depending on your liking..

Unfortunatly I have yet to hear the ML 2.1. Have read lots of good things about it especially here on Agon.
Next month I am making a trip down to Seattle to listen to the VTL's. It will be most interesting listening to them on the Maxx II. Definitive Audio carries both of these products.
Anybody in the Pacific Northwest with Lamm ML 2.1 ?
I sold my ML 33hs in 3 hrs so I will hunt for the Lamm ML 2.1's on Agon.
This would be bought on the sole recommendations on all of you out there.
Here goes..........