VTL Siefried vs Audio Research 610T


Hello, What are you thoughts on these two amps? I'm looking to purchase a pair of one of them. The speakers are Wilson Maxx II's.

VTL's price was raised to 50k for these amps so that might not them out of the running.

I would love to hear your thoughts.

THanks,
jon_p
Jon_p I did not want to hi-jack your thread but I have some insight of amps with MAXX 2's. If you have the chance get some CAT's to try do your self a favour and do so. A friend has the JL3 mono blocks and the sound was marvelous, he actually recently replaced the MAXX 2's with Asendo M speakers which I will say I prefer another person whom I communicate back and forth with has the CAT JL2 SIG. MK2 stereo amp with his MAXX 2's and says it's a perfect match. I have not heard his system so I can't comment. I had the 610's trying them with my Avalon Isis speakers and VTL 750's but sold everything off. This was a set-up in my designated room and was having manly problems with the Avalon's filling the room properly, I have another system with MBL 101E speakers and I'm awaiting to receive CAT JL3 SIG. MK2 mono blocks along with Berning Quadrature-Z mono blocks. The latter only 24 pairs being made and from what I've read look very interesting.

My 2 cents worth, have fun.
I do agree with you on the CAT JL 3's. I too have a friend with theseamps driving Rockport Hyperions and the sound is exceptional.
The Siegfrieds and ARC 610Ts sound the best I've ever heard on Wilson speakers as far as tubes are concerned.

They like power and current to my ears, despite their purported dbl sensitivity.

And high powered SS gear should not be discounted unless $$$ need wasting.
Khrys

I suppose it is all a matter of taste. I owned the Ref 600 Mk lll and had a 610T on order until I heard the Lamm ML 2.1 on my Wilson X-2's and I cancelled the order as IMO there was just no comparison. Prior to the Ref 600's I was driving my previous X-1 series lll's with Krell 750 MCX. All of these amps were very good but none near so musical as the Lamm. Recently however the bar has been set even higher with Vladimir Lamm's new ML 3 Reference which for me at least was such a jaw dropping experience that it is tantamount to being at a live performance. I am going to find it very difficult to send this amp back.