VTL Siefried vs Audio Research 610T


Hello, What are you thoughts on these two amps? I'm looking to purchase a pair of one of them. The speakers are Wilson Maxx II's.

VTL's price was raised to 50k for these amps so that might not them out of the running.

I would love to hear your thoughts.

THanks,
jon_p
The Siegfrieds and ARC 610Ts sound the best I've ever heard on Wilson speakers as far as tubes are concerned.

They like power and current to my ears, despite their purported dbl sensitivity.

And high powered SS gear should not be discounted unless $$$ need wasting.
Khrys

I suppose it is all a matter of taste. I owned the Ref 600 Mk lll and had a 610T on order until I heard the Lamm ML 2.1 on my Wilson X-2's and I cancelled the order as IMO there was just no comparison. Prior to the Ref 600's I was driving my previous X-1 series lll's with Krell 750 MCX. All of these amps were very good but none near so musical as the Lamm. Recently however the bar has been set even higher with Vladimir Lamm's new ML 3 Reference which for me at least was such a jaw dropping experience that it is tantamount to being at a live performance. I am going to find it very difficult to send this amp back.
Khrys,

I have to agree with you...the Maxx's love current. I've never heard them sound so good. So far, the Siegfried is very impressive. The vocals sound incredible and it has bass for days.
Jon_p

How are going with the amp choice, have you heard the AR 610 yet? Ours have 255 hours now and have opened up considerably.
I have a VTL S400 that is similar in design to the Siegfrieds I love it. Like the reviewer from IAR, it completely disappears. I did make one huge improvement. I was lucky enough to find 12 NOS GE 6550's (still had the VTL logo on the them). They made a huge difference-I could not listen to the "stock" 6550's after I changed them. If you can find the GE's give them a try (kind of expensive and you'll need a lot of them)