I want an inexpensive chinese tube power or integr

Bootlegging, piracy, lack of Q.C., and ignoring intellectual property rights will reduce the price of any product!

Try some Chinese tubes if you want to try cheap...about 1/2 the life-span of NOS tubes and grainy as 40 grit sandpaper....will this post be censored?

given the speaker specs Larry quotes, the entry Antique Sound Labs would not be an option then

Not sure what the current price is but TAD has a 100Watt/ channel set of tube monos that might fit the bill. Give Paul an email at Bizzy Bee and see what he says. I have his Pre, SS monos, and 60 watt tube amp and in my experience, they are hard to beat for the money. He has a 60Watt/ Channel Amp that gets excellent reviews and I drove them for two years with my Vandy 2CE sigs( 86DB @ 6 Ohms)

A used Cayin unit, 50 or higher will be a great investment and at the same time get you hooked. A Cayin 88 will drive the Krells. I've heard the 88 with the Krell's and it was the equal of Mac 275's, which the 88 is advertised as a clone.

As for 'Bootlegging, piracy, lack of Q.C., and ignoring intellectual property rights will reduce the price of any product!' True, but that is not what Cayin is all about. QC is excellent, done to avionics spec's, designs they use are all classic and in the public domain. Dealer's do not like the line since the profit margins favor the buyer, not the seller.

I have a Sheng-ya hybrid integrated which I love for a second system. This integrated is also sold under the Vincent and Kavent names. All you have to do is replace the original Chinese tubes with better ones.