Next upgrade, DartZeel or Ayre


Due to heat and space, I am considering DartZeel or Ayre as both are solid state and take up less space than my current system. I understand DartZeel pre and power work best together, similarly for Ayre KX-R and MX-R, so I will get the combo to achieve the best synergy. DartZeel has built-in phono, Ayre does not, so I will have to keep my Einstein phono stage if I go with Ayre.

Has anyone compared the combo? My current speakers are SF Amati Homage & Guarneri Memento with JL F113, either combo can drive my speakers well since I don't listen loud. I do like the extra power from Ayre which gives me more options for speaker upgrade later. But if DartZeel is superior, I am willing to live with the lower power rating and shop my next speaker within DartZeel's capability.

Any input is appreciated.
semi
Hi Sirspeedy, may I ask you: which power amplifier is in your opinion "in a class of it's own"? Goldmund? Audio Research? Lamm?

Chris
Dazz....c'mon!....No power amp is in a class of it's "own"!!There's lots of good stuff around.

Best.
I can't comment on the DartZeel as I've only heard them at shows. I can, however, comment at length about the Ayre MXR - KXR combination, as I've had the monoblocks for almost 2 years, and the new preamp for the past several months.

The monoblocks are, IMHO, very deserving of the accolades they have garnered. They truly combine the best performance features available from world-class tube and solid state amplifiers. I am aware of quite a few industry stalwarts who have made the MXRs their reference amplifiers (several of whom had been die-hard tube loyalists). An important benefit of the MXRs vis-a-vis the DartZeel amp, is the fact that being monoblocks, they can be located immediately adjacent to their respective speakers, to keep to an absolute minimum the speaker cable length (which has a very significant positive impact, all other factors kept constant).

While the MXR was a breakthrough product for Ayre, the KXR takes it to another league. I really believe the KXR is the most significant product Charlie Hansen & Co. have yet designed - a defining product. On the one hand, it is the most expensive audio product I've ever bought, on the other hand, it very well may represent the highest value per dollar spent. To put it another way, these components will certainly be my reference preamp and amp for the next decade (or two).

Effortless and musical are the best way to describe them. The dynamic range available regardless of volume is a true revelation. While I believe there is a synergy between them, I don't believe they need to be used together to show what each can do -- any system could benefit from either component separately, or both together.

Feel free to e-mail me if you would like to know more. - Pete -
thanks for the inputs.

in my 15+ years of audiophile life, I did have to send some pre & power amps to be serviced and one as far as Canada. the experience is painful and expensive, I would rather not have to deal with it again. but life is full of changes and I am sure I will move again, so owning a gear made in the local neighborhood is not the gating factor though a bonus.

I never heard the DartZeel, but I did hear Ayre combo in dealer with not too optimized setup. Ayre combo sounded good, but given I was not familiar with rest of components and room acoustic, I wasn't ready to give up my BAT 150SE & SF Line 3SE+ for the Ayre combo + lots and lots of cash yet. I know many many solid state amps claim "tube like" midrange and transparency, but I haven't heard one in my life. I don't need absolute neutrality when listen at home, I am not looking for that. instead, I am looking for music that can lift my soul and carry me away after a long day at work. somehow I had the impression DartZeel would be the better of the two to do that, maybe it's the gold face that's glowing softly under dim light that creates the warm feeling.

still searching.