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Battery Powered Preamps

I notice that the more expensive preamps get within a line, or in general, the more complexity and expense seems ot be applied to the power supply and regualtion; sometimes with the addition of a second box for the power supply.

I conclude power supply is important. If this is so, why not go the simpler route of battery power for pure DC? My Dodd Battery Pre works very well indeed (for context -I've owned CAT, Lamm, ARC, Joule, Placette Active, Atma-sphere (still own), Bent TAP). Am I missing something, or doesn't battery power just make the most sense for a preamp - off the grid and all that? Seem much simpler than most highend approaches, and much less expensive to implement.
pubul57
jwarmbrand
27 posts
 
The RWA Isabella is an amazing tube preamp and runs completely on SLA battery power. I own it, along with the Signature 30.2 and the off the grid experience using these SLA batteries has very clear advantages to my ears.

6moons just released the review of the RWA Isabella. IMHO this review is spot on!

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/redwine10/isabella.html

Now I am playing with tube rolling using Amperex 7308s. Wow they are very sweet!!!

-Jeff
ngjockey
1,042 posts
 
The first battery powered preamp, the Mission 776, used two 12 volt lead-acid in series. Those type of batteries are still used in emergency lighting and are not expensive. Dynamics was not an issue. I only had to replace the batteries once in 6 years. Much of the cost is in a reliable, automatic charging system. On the other hand, the batteries in laptop computers can be very expensive to replace.

Tubes require high voltage which means many batteries, probably smaller, in series.
mrjstark
1,112 posts
 
The only reasons that drove me into buying Dodd and then Isabella/isabellina preamp/dac were,
*my annoyance with filthy power
*lowering the floor noise
*overall sound quality - it simply sounds phenomenal
*innovative, yet simple approach - my kind of guys.

At the end it comes down to the most essential question:
- is the use of batteries beneficial to the overall sound quality and enjoyment?

.............you know what my answer is. How about you?

Mariusz

P.S

The money generated from the sells of all power cables and conditioners, paid for the Isabellina dac option. Totally worth it. Upgrade that I can actually hear and appreciate.

Cheers
pubul57 OP
3,712 posts
 
Assuming battery implementations overcome what might be a theoretical issue regarding bass and dynamics (owners of Dodd and RWA seem to think this is not a problem with their preamps)wouldn't battery DC be cleaner and more "perfect" than what complex power supplies and regulation could possibly accomplish? It just seems a lot can wrong in the AC to DC conversion (let alone power cords, and quality of AC in most homes) and delivery versus pure battery power. I ask as an electrical neophyte, but it just seems that simpler is generally better.
guidocorona
4,298 posts
 
Dgarretson, JRDG twin chassis Criterion is based on BB OPA1632 modules. Jeff Rowland designed its battery PS around NiMH D cells. I will finally listen to it in room 505 on Friday at RMAF. . . still have no idea if it sounds good, bad, or indifferent. I am also curious to find out how it compares to the minimalistic SS PS Capri, which is also based on BB OPA-1632. I will definitely also visit RedWine and Dod suites.
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