ARC Ref 75 vs. Ref 75 SE


Has anyone had the opportunity to compare the ARC Ref 75 with the new Ref 75 SE?
hkaye
Bifwayne wrote....Have tubes arced and taken out bias resisters?? Yes!! But how often?? Maybe once or twice a year. And since I've been using KT-120 and KT-150 power tubes, tube arcing has been a very rare occurrence.

Once or twice a year?? You call that not too often. I call it unacceptable. Audio Research are not exactly new to the game.
Brf ... tubes arc. It's what they do. The problem isn't with the amp ... it's about the nature of tubes. The only fair push back point is that ARC doesn't use circuit breakers. I can't answer that question because I'm not an electrical engineer. All I can do is pass along what ARC told me. Take it FWIW.
Bifwynne, having an ARC repair tech nearby does make ownership of their power amps more reasonable. Imagine having to ship a heavy power amp to Minnesota every time a tube blows! In his writings on amp design and building-in reliability, Roger Modjeski made an analogy something like this: What if a car maker designed and made his vehicles such that when a tire blew (which is likely to happen) the suspension was sacrificed? And that this design choice was made because to prevent damage to the suspension in the event of a tire blowing, the suspension's performance was deemed to have to be slightly compromised. A fair and reasonable trade-off? That's for consumers to decide. Roger claims (of course) that his design protects the amp from damage by tubes without compromising it's sound quality. He states that the idea of using the circuit parts themselves to protect the rest of the amp from damage by it's tubes is just plain, bad engineering. Inelegant, at least!

Tom pointed out something else in the ARC amps---the burn marks on the circuit board, around the tube sockets. Mounting power amp output tube sockets on a circuit board = a very bad idea. In the mid-80's I went to hear Bill Johnson talk when he came to a local dealer. He mentioned that the ARC products were built with a projected lifespan of twenty years. At the time that seemed like an eternity---it doesn't now.

Of course, if you own ARC power amps and haven't had any problems, non of this matters. My history with ARC began in '72 with me turning on my brand new SP-3 pre-amp, fresh out of it's shipping carton. It immediately made a POP! sound, and I had my first smell of a fried resistor. Welcome to ARC ownership!