Amp advice for Sound Lab M-2's


Looking for opinions for a amp to use with my Sound Lab M-2 speakers. I am down to considering the Bryston 7b – SST, Parasound JC – 1, and the new Sanders Sound ESL amp. The former owner of the M-2’s used a Pass X-350, but I found that it sounded dry, and very thin. No warmth at all. Lots of older Krells out there, great bottom ends, but again often very cool sounding. I’m not that familiar with the Levinson’s, another option, maybe. The Sound Labs do need a good honest 300 watts > 8 ohms, and 600 watts > 4 ohms. Most amps don’t have the combination of voltage and current ratings to handle the speakers. I am leaning towards the Brystons. Overall they seem to be an amp that is easy to live with, while maybe not the best over all, they do a lot right. Ideas and experiences appreciated. By the way, the listening room is 23x21, with a ceiling that is 9 feet on one long wall, and slopes up to 16 feet on the other long wall. 15 feet of the highest long wall is open right in the middle of the wall. So the room can really suck up speaker output. Thanks.
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Gammastrep, your speakers are fundamentally different from box speakers as you know. The impedance curve is the result of 2 factors, neither of which has anything to do with resonance.

The result is that the 'conventional wisdom' about using a transistor amp to make the speaker sing is wildly inaccurate.

first, read
http://www.atma-sphere.com/papers/paradigm_paper2.html

Your speakers are a Power Paradigm technology, so voltage-source power amps like big transistor amps are all going to have similar issues- too bright in the highs and not nearly enough bass. If you think about it, lets try the example of a 600 watt transistor amp. Into the bass, which is over 30 ohms in some areas, that amp will only make about 150 watts. IOW, any 200-watt tube amp will be able to keep up with it, as a tube amplifier will be able to deliver substantial power into an impedance like that. Any time you mix Voltage and Power paradigm technologies, you will get a tonal anomaly, in this case too much highs and not enough bass.

The bottom line is that you need to seek a tube amplifier if you wish to get the most out of this speaker. As you have noted, that tube amp should be capable of some power. IME you will need about 200 watts per channel to get things happening.
Ralph;if you pop your head back onto this thread;I have m2's with impedance mods;would your 60 watt amp with the autoformers drive these;I don't listen to large SPL's on my m2's; music is mostly vocals,jazz and acoustic but sometimes pink floyd does shown up.
Rleff, if you have a set of ZEROs a set of M-60s will do OK. The big problem is the highs- M-60s don't drive 2-3 ohms all that well and that's where the ZEROs help out.
Ralph, one thing I don't understand: why should a solid state amplifier run out of steam in the lower frequencies when driving Soundlab A-1's. I've always thought an amplifier has less to do (doesn't have to deliver lots of current) with rising speaker impedance. But in your terms this amplifier would have difficult times when facing a 50 Ohms impedance like in the case of the Soundlabs. Can you elucidate this a bit? Thank you in advance.

Chris