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can a tube-o-phile be happy with ss?

I switched to tubes over a decade ago, after realizing that I no longer listened to the stereo because it did not sound like real music and ss and digital were irritating, on a subconscious level. Went to all tubes and mostly LP's. It worked. I even prefer triode with no negative feedback settings, usually. Now ss has supposedly improved, and its advantages beckon, e.g., less heat, electricity and trouble, better bass and perhaps more detail and clarity. Have any of you voluntarily gone back to the dark side and been content? (with the understanding that it never really ends, for an audiophile). On an unlimited budget one might have few complaints, but this question is necessarily in the context of a semblance of fiscal sanity, not top of the line Boulder, Ayre or Zanden.
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polk432
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Don't do it! There's no reason to jump off a roof. The best TUBE equipment is better sounding than the best ss. More attention to detail when they are built. Good Luck.
blindjim
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I must be like Deon Sanders… for as much as I enjoy my all tube power train, the aspect of now and then adding an SS amp sure is nice. Probably I won’t add an SS preamp though. Definitely not on par with the tube preamp I have, anyways.

Mainly, and speaking for myself only, this vasilation of mine from hollow state to solid and back again, stems from deep within. Nothing else. Both sides of the how to do music coin, Tube or SS are valid enough methods that can be lived with long term.

But now isn’t some degree of ‘both’ even better? Doubtless here when I say both, I should say both together. 50/50. SS + Tubes, or vice versa.

AS was said already, your speakers are likely gonna make the call which way you wind up going, if one, the other, or onto a 50/50 basis. Even if you aren’t aware of it going in. Ultimately, you’ll find your best combo I’m sure…. But having both around sure is nice, if for no other reason than a change of pace now and then.

eg., Tweaking & rolling… I’m with Jacks here.. once you get there, why keep going?
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loki1957
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I replaced Jadis Defy7, JA30s, JA200s, for Odyssey Mono Extremes with the glass ceiling upgrade. I never thought I'd listen to anything other than tubes. Was I wrong. Resolution(the Jadis do not have anywhere near this level of resolution. Never knew what I was missing till now. I can never go back), dynamics, control, extension. They make my Jadis amps sound very colored and rolled off.
schipo
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The statement made by an audiogon member pertaining to tube gear "More attention to detail when they are built" is equivalent to junk science period. There is no proff that a designer of tube equiptment when compared to ss, paid more attention to detail when designing a piece of audio gear. I remind you all of a preamp shootout many years in the old absolute sound when a ss design blow away all the competition, encluding top tube designs. The preamp in question was the DR-5 and 6 by Dave Reich of old Classe.
chadnliz
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To say tubes are better than any SS model is a statement I thought many in this hobby would be too smart to support but I keep on being surprised. Tubes can and are great but so is solid state, and to say one is better than another is mere opinion, arrogance and at times dilusion.
I never stop being so amazed as why so many insist on views that have no proof and why in such a solitary hobby so many care what anyone thinks in the first place.
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