Primaluna opinions wanted

I will venture to say that is a Big Bang for the money.I'm not new to tubes (Air Tight,Viva,CJ,Jadis,Quicksilver-to mention a few).It responds very well to tube upgrades and I didn't feel that the purchase of Genelex/GEC NOS King Of the Triodes was a waste of $1200+.I hear the difference these have made.Could I be happy with "stock" tubes,probably but they are a little solid-state in nature

I have owned Peima Luna 3 preamp and pl 6 amp for a couple of years and have been very pleased with it. I am one of those who mooved from ss to tube. I have not regretted the move. However, those of us who enjoy great mudic are always looking for the ultimate in sound within the range of our resources. I have had a love affair with Mcintosh over the years, and in the last few weeks have been doing a bit of research and evaluation as to whether or not I could improve my sound by going back to Mc. I don't have th facilities to a/b compare. But so far I have gotten the word from those I have talked to who have made the comparison that there is not a great deal of improvement. This is comparing PL with somewhat comparable Mc. This is far from a scientific comparison. But for the price,I don't think you can beat the PL for pewrformance. Happy liatening. J.Notth1178

I have had the PL2 integrated amp for almost 4 years and the PL5 power amp for 3 1/2 years, so I don't view the PL offerings as "flavor of the month" products. For the money, the PL products offer excellent performance and equally excellent reliability. I have no desire to upgrade beyond them, because doing so would mean spending significantly more in order to better the performance.

Regards,

Rich

They aren't really in the same league and are very different in all respects except for the remarkable quality of construction or "the build quality."
The PL feels like a much more expensive amp. It sounds like a typical amp in it's price bracket.
The Mac is twice the money and to me doesn't really sound like a top notch tube amp. It sounds more SS to me than other tube amps.
In any event you won't be confused about what the sonic signature of these amps.
Apples and Oranges!
If you want the Mac iron fisted control and slam you won't hear it from a PL. If you want a really nice 4 tube integrated that reeks of careful construction but sounds as you would anticipate for 2k then the PL is your choice.
Or if you want something that I bought for less than the Mac costs then be prepared to blow yourself away with Opera Consonance Tube Monoblocks called Cyber 800s. I have never heard such good sound period, never mind that they list for a breath under $4K.

As long as we are headed off topic,lets' increase the budget to say $5-6K.We might now include integrateds from Cary,VAC,ARC and amplifiers such as the small Jadis,some OTLs:Atmosphere,Berning,Navison,Lamm,the Dartzel,Soul amps,VAC PHI and Ren and I'm sure I have missed a few.
McGarick:What is the budget?Integrated or pre/power?Any idea what speakers will be used?