Pioneer M-22 or Pass Aleph 3?


Anyone have experience with both of theses amps? How do they compare?
olp88
Good to here your comments on the comparison. But I disagree that the Aleph series are not classics. They sure are and have a following all the way thru Nelson Pass' kitchen table projects. The Aleph 30 is one of my all time fovorites.
When I talk classics, I mean amps such as Nelson's SA-1s, Krell KSA 50 or 100. Amps that transcend the normal. Again, I'm referring to the Aleph stereo model that was square in shape. I don't believe these particular stereo amps are as "collectable" as the SA-1s, or an S-500. Mind you, they have a following, as many of Nelson's products do, but those who like them perhaps may not have heard SA-1s. The Aleph monos are though, very very good. I have a dear reviewer friend who has them singing in his Wilson based system.

Just my thoughts,

Peter
Thanks Peter. I was considering the Aleph 3 as a replacement for the M-22 I have but I think I'll keep it! Exploring higher power class A amps and thinking of adding a Luxman M-05 to the collection.
Leo
Leo,

Try a Pioneer M-25 if you want to experiment (just don't sell that M-22 to do it). The M-25 has more punch and edge definition a-n-d gobs of power, less magic but that's ok. And shhhhhhh, about the M-05, one of the world's greatest amplifiers. I'll leave that to a Stereophile article.

Peter
Hi Peter,
If you had your choice between an M-05 and a KSA 100, which would you choose?
Leo