This thread is astonishing. Many new tubes are fabulous (KT120s have been nearly unanimously accepted as great), guitar amps use FAR more of the available tubes than home audio geeks ever will, and new "boutique" tube amps and reissued amps sound mostly better than ever (and 99% of 'em are sold with new tubes). Tubes like the high end Psvanes are beautiful, very well made, and sound amazing. I've only had a few tubes not do the job or fail in my many years of using 'em, and among those were NOS tubes. So, basically, you're all insane.