Any opinions on new type of amps from BMC, Hegel,


Curious if people have heard and have opinions on several 'new style' amplifiers recently released by BMC, Hegel H-30, and Devialet. Seen several systems posted on the 'Gon now using BMC gear, with rave reviews; but I'm always a bit concerned if you must use the matching preamp and or dac, or special inter connects to obtain best sound. I have heard the new Hegel H-30; which is a beast; it was configured in a stereo set up, not used as monoblocks; and had some amazing base response, PRAT, sparkle, and awesome sound staging and presence; just made music seem alive in this room. But I'd like to hear from anyone who has the new Hegel lineup installed; with their thoughts; and what else they considered prior to pulling the trigger. The usual reviewers gave the new style Devialet the best of the best reviews at year end; a 'revolutionary' new style amp; but then I've heard nothing, or read nothing about people who have purchased it. Then there is the new style ML amp; but its way expensive; and out of my price range; so I won't go there. Usually amps design stays pretty constant, and they work on lowering distortion and increasing watts, but I don't know the specifics of what makes these 'new style' amps work; and whether they work well. Thanks for the feedback.
mribob
TBg: Thanks for your note; yes; I saw yoursystem posted on Virtual systems; it looks great. But I don't think you accurately answered my questions about how the BMC amp works; and how is different from other amp designs. Does it sound best when paired with BMC dac/preamp/cables, and if so, why?
For your friend who compared the Hegel with the BMC, can he offer specifics about the comparison? It's getting harder to audition equipment with 'brick and mortar' dealers; and at these price points; we wish to maxmize our enjoyment of hobby; and minimize buyers remorse; or to buy into 'hype' not backed by system synergy...at time I do not have a Turn Table; so a phone stage is not important to me; perhaps though, later...
and in response to Audiofiel; and Dev; your disclosures of dealer relationship if any, is important for this discussion. Thanks for sharing; the BMC products seem interesting and high quality; I just don't know much about them...
I have no financial relationship with BMC therefore a "dealer disclosure" on my part is irrelevant.

Sorry you were confused in that regard.
Mribob, you should know by now it's only a hobby for me.

I have no finacial gains and/or relationship with any products what so ever.

That being said there sure are allot posting in general who do, they should disclose such.
Mribob, all I know about current injection is that the amps used with the BMC DAC! PRE which conveys information through a special cable in addition to the audio cables doesn't entail the amp to be at full output potential at all times. You can run the amps with other linestages as I said. And you can use the amps without the IC on. I definitely sounds best with the IC on with the DAC! PRE.

With regard to Bill Feil, I respond to nothing he posts, but I should point out that his disclaimer that he criticizes all reviewers who review anything favorable which is in competition with his limited lines of equipment. If you chose to ignore my posts, I am not offended. My reviews are not available for purchase.

We are the North American importers for BMC, and this is just an information post on the BMC Products.

Regarding the AMP S1 stereo and AMP M1 mono: These amplifiers can be run RCA, XLR or XLR CI (CI stands for current injection). A short description of CI (Current Injection): Low-impedance signal input that lets the original current of the signal source flow through the amplifier circuit until it reaches the desired speaker output voltage. When running the CI analog outputs from the BMC DAC1 to the S1 or M1 amplifiers CI input you activate the current injection feature. In addition when you run a Toslink cable (included with amps) from the BMC DAC to the amp this activates the DIGM (Discrete Intelligent Gain Management) feature. Then the volume is done inside the amplifier eliminating the need for a preamp. The DAC1 PRE adds additional inputs for other sources and can also be routed through the Current Injection circuit. The DAC1 also includes HR-USB 24/192.

For a introduction to the BMC Amplifiers have a look at this PDF:
AMPLIFICATION REDEFINED CI DIGM LEF,
http://www.bmc-audio.de/en/pdf/BMC_Amp_amplification_redefined.pdf

The BMC products offer many new advancements not seen in other high end audio lines, including modular designs for future upgrades, large production runs of 300+ units per product and a unique marketing plan offering the consumer a fair un-inflated price.