Buying Tubes Again; Maddening


Has anyone tried the new production Genalex 'Gold Lion' 12AX7's and 12AT7's? I've been using the pricey Sophia Electric's but they just don't last long enough in my Hovland HP-100 phono-stage to justify the cost (they do sound pretty good though)...
stickman451
I have the HP-100 also, Stickman... the very unit used by a 'Famous 6Moons Reviewer' and tube "collector"/reseller for about 8 years as the reference. Unfortunately it's packed away for now until remodeling/reconfiguring is completed here, and I can't easily get at it to pop the top. However, it went through rounds of tube rolling by the previous owner -- to his, I'd tend to vouch, very balanced, musical tastes -- and interestingly, he found the cheerfully inexpensive JJ 12AX7's to be optimum in the phono stage, combined with the selected NOS he chose to employ elsewhere inside (which I don't recall, except for a Mullard, I believe, at the phono stage's output). So you might want want to give the JJ option(s?) a try: I suspect the Mullard adds a touch of addtl. warmth to the mix.

All the usual H. Grails were available, BTW. Also, his circumstances meant that a variety of different amps got hitched to the Hovland, which I understand retained a consistent, neutral character throughout. This result significantly influenced my purchase decision, being (I like to think) a practical guy. Write me, if you'd like, but I'd put it at < 50/50 that he'll remember the total tube mix exactly. Caution: this unit has had all the factory upgrades performed (you didn't say in your case), so your Hovland may be a somewhat different beast.
Elizabeth, While various circuits have an effect on tube life some tubes simply last longer than others. While one tube may last only 500 hours another tube may last 2,000-3,000 hours or more in the same circuit. Unfortunately the better sounding tube can have the shorter life.
In general, tube gear just sounds better and more real than SS gear; that's why I still use tubes...

So, no one has tried the Genalex tubes?
Yes, my HP-100 was 'updated' for final status before Hovland quit. I've tried several of the JJ's but the ones I used seemed a tad noisy and not as 'organic' as the Sophia's or the Mullard NOS.

I may just try the Genalex and go from there. The problem with getting NOS Mullards is that you never know what you are truly getting. I have NOS Mullards that came from so-called respected on-line dealers that went way noisy in just a few months...
stickman..i recently tried the 'genalex' 6922 tubes in my preamp and really liked what i heard ..but...i had an acute ground loop issue with them and replaced them .i did like the sound...as for the ' tube life ' issue...i recently bought a pair of the new sophia electric 'royal princess ' 300B tubes for my amps and even if they only lasted 500 hrs i would still buy them again due to their superb sound...hopefully they will last alot longer..