In search of a new integrated


I recently purchased an original version of the Sonus Faber Cremona's. I currently have them paired with a Primare stack I30/CD31 with Kimber Kable throughout. The sound is not exactly what I was looking for. I am looking for a more detailed, more transparent sound. I am looking for suggestions on upgrading my integrated amp and maybe the cd player. Any suggestions are welcome other than the ones suggesting I get a new set of speakers. I enjoy the Sonus Faber Cremona sound.

My system includes:
Speakers: Sonus Faber Cremona
Integrated: Primare I30
Source: Primare CD31
Interconnect: Kimber Kable Select KS1126
Speaker Cable: Kimber Kable 12TC
Power cables: Kimber PK10 Gold on both units
Power Dist. Shunyata Guardian 6
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Going with the recommendation not to change any components just yet, if you can, try to move your entire system to another room. If that is not possible, try to move your speakers to an entirely different wall in your room. I have done this over the years and am amazed at how differently a system sounds in different rooms. Many have said here and elsewhere that the room is the biggest determiner. If that does not convince you, I have also tried the same speakers in the same position with very different systems (vintage tube equipment vs. modern solid state) and the difference is NOT overwhelming at all between these components, albeit good ones. Changing electronics can make a difference indeed, but if your room is to blame, changing electronics can really hurt you in the wallet!
Also, to address your question of other amplifiers, while I have never heard the Primare with Sonus Faber, I did recently hear the Cremonas with a Marantz Integrated (I believe it was the PM-11S3) and I thought it sounded fantastic. And to elaborate on my last post, I have tried the experiment I suggested many times over the years with many systems in many different homes (I have moved around a lot). One example, I had a large bookshelf speaker in a dedicated sound room with a wonderful Rowland Integrated amplifier, and for kicks I put the speakers on top of an entertainment center (not their stands) in another room with a cheaper Harmon Kardon 25 w/ch A/V receiver and the overall sound was still very good...
Hi,

With Sonus Faber loudspeaker a very nice match is with Burmester that builds up very excellent integrated amps.
I just sold my Cremonas. I wonder...

Anyway, I think placement is very important. In fact, I think the Cremonas are every bit as placement sensitive as my Magnepan 3.7s.

Regarding electronics - I had good luck with Parasound Halo and Krell, medium luck with Van Alstine and NAD, and bad luck with Nuforce 9v2 and Musical Fidelity. Please keep in mind that I am not commenting on the quality of the electronics, just the synergy in my room with my ears.
I read the OP's post again and he said "the sound is not exactly what I was looking for" and "I am looking for more detailed and transparent sound".

Besides room and speaker placement tweaks that you must try first, I would also suggest that maybe your Sonus Faber Cremonas are not the speaker for you. SF's are a very musical speaker but not known for their detailed transparency. They are a warm, slightly dark sounding speaker and have never been known to disappear and deliver sonic accuracy like a fine monitor. For many of us, this is OK - we like this kind of sound. I own Vienna Acoustics and like SF's, they too are warm and dark sounding. But very smooth and musical.

Again, I would explore your room, speaker placement and then the speakers themselves for your answers. A new different amp or player will not get you "the sound you are looking for".