Pass Labs XP-20 or Audio Research Ref 3?


Who's compared the two in your system?
Please let me know. Thanks
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Prove is what you let hear to people in sound with music. I understand that the words I use can be seen as bragging.

But I can use sound so people understand my words. At the end they know it is exactely as I told them.

This is not about bragging. It is about passion and emotion. You have to see further. Like I said many times; it is not about me. Maybe when you read the words you think it is. But believe me it is not.

When you would listen to my systems you will understand that I did choose the exact words!
Bo-

you are certainly on to something w/ the room-correction thing. I have been to many dealers/retailers and have had poor auditioning experiences because of diminished room acoustics. Keep posting your experiments.

Which gear is in your system?
Because the level of knowledge in so poor. Last year when I was the absolute sound of a big show in my country. I went on Monday ( dealer day) with my own music to listen to many sets.

Even the expensive sets with B&W D800, Focal Scala, Dynaudio Platinum and many more were not that special. I was listening to mistakes all the time. I was surprised how low the knowledge is.

People don't know anything about how big instruments and voices need to be in proportion in real. Many people even in this business know little about 3 dimensional sound. Many dealers came to me how I create such a 3 dimensional stage. Many never heard it so clear. This is how I sell audio for many years. For me it is a normal thing.

In shops it is the same. Don't forget I am addicted to music since I was 6. This is not my work, or even hobby. This is a second nature. For most it is work. I have done thousends of test because I love it and it does not cost energy. The approach is totally different. I don't f..care how much money I earn. I am only interested in giving people the best quality in sound.

In my country audio is having a rough time. What you see is that they focus on selling those brands where they earn the most money with. These are never the best products available. How stuppid you can be!

There is not a lot knowledge about roomcorrection. I do it for 3,5 years now. I have done many tests to understand what it is. And I use it my way. Because I wanted to get the best sound possible. That is not how the people who made it use it. Because that level is not good enough!
Do you use room correction to get a 3D soundstage and imaging or do you use it to address frequency issues in poorly designed rooms? Or is it for something else?

And why do you think you are the only person who understands this and can use that Audyssay Pro room correction device correctly?
The precision is a lot better than with a normal pre amp. Voices and instruments are a lot more touchable. You can hear also 2nd and 3th voices on a recording so much easier.

There is more information also in a voice. You hear things which are not there without. Even the best highend pre amps it was only a little noticeable. Even the best cables in the world will not add this information.

Last year there was a demo with Nordost Odin, Valhalla powercables, Neodio and speakers were Raidho Diamonds. When I played Bruce Sprinsteen Brothers under the bridge. The articulation of his voice was by far not that open and clear as with my own set.

Also in speed and timing it is different. There is also more resolution in the highest freq. as well with my pre amp and roomcorrection. All these parts make the stage wider and deeper. At the end it gives a more 3D presentation.

All my cables and conditioner are worth far over 50.000 dollar. They are very important as well.

Purist powercables are in my opinion the best in the world. Because they do all the different parts for the absolute sound exeptional well.

Same about the most expensive cables Audioquest makes.

They both can give a set a stunning black level to die for.

Every single part in my set has been tested over and over again before I buy it. When you are a perfectionist you are Always busy in making it better. This never stops. I do this in everything I do. This weekend I will pick up my Taylor made Italian pair of trousers. I had to wait for 5 weeks before it is made and shipped from Italy. I have in my head how I want it to be. And with sound it is the same story.

A few weeks ago I Compared my Olive 06HD with the Aurender S10 and the Wadia s7i. With the cables I use the stage of the Olive is a lot bigger than with the Wadia and Aurender. This gives you a superior freedom of voices and instruments in a 3 dimensional image. The Aurender is a poor source in my opinion. It does not have a soul. I have listend to it with 5 different Dacs. All sounded like shit, it misses also flavor. With classical music you are aware how poor it is. It sounds like a class D amp. No heart. The Olive has much more flavor. Instruments and voices are so much better separated. Also compared to the Wadia the stage was in my set a lot bigger. In the lowest freq there are more layers with the Olive and timing is better compared to the Wadia. Because with the cables I own I can get a superior level out of the Olive. It is a shame they had such a bad service in the US. In my country a company did do the service with all the spare parts.

The person who did Olive in my country has visited me a few times. He also does Ayre, Sonus Faber and Audio research ( They also sell Transparent and Wilson Audio). He calls my set the best he ever heard.

The Authority is also superior to the XP-20. I can play louder with the same amp compared to the XP-20. There is more control. The needle moves later compared to the XP-20 at the same volume.