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Which part of my turntable system should I upgrade

Hi! I'm looking to upgrade my system. I have a budget of 400$ including shipping and cables and everything else. I'd prefer new to used and/or vintage. I do have a couple ideas in my mind, but I'm not quite sure and I was wondering if anyone here had suggestions/ideas!

I still haven't figured out what "bright" and "warm" sound like so I can't comment in that respect, but I listen to a lot of pop punk/indie punk (Broadway Calls, The Menzingers, Sundials, Junior Battles, etc. -- I think their stuff's on YouTube) and also a few acoustic bands. All of my music is from the past 10-15 years.

Turntable: Denon DP 300F (built in phono)
Cartridge: Shure M97XE
Integrated Amp: NAD C315BEE
Speakers: Wharfedale Evo 2-8

The Denon has been weird ever since I got it (I bought it used online, and it plays noticeably faster than it's supposed to, I checked with a strobe light but don't know what the problem is --- I even replaced the belt) so I'm thinking about replacing it. On the other hand, I love the automatic feature, and I can't think of another budget turntable on the market that has it. I like to fall asleep to records, and the auto-stop feature is great. I'm also not very adept at placing the needle on the record, and that's where the auto-start comes in.

When I originally bought my system, I had a Denon DL-110 but a friend bought it off me and I put the Shure in instead. I was also thinking of upgrading the cartridge (to a Denon) and then I'd have $260 left over to spend.

I"m not sure how much the built in phono is impacting my system. I live in an apartment with my parents so adding an extra piece to my system will be a hassle, but if it'll make the biggest difference, I'd definitely consider it.

I was also wondering (since I'm not much of an audiophile) if there are any parts of my system that's out of balance quality-wise? i.e. the speakers are too good for the turntable, or the cartridge is subpar compared to the rest of the system, etc.

On a final note, minimal manual installation/effort is a huge priority for me.

Thank you so much! I appreciate any and all feedback :)
toxicwaterfront
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rauliruegas
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Dear Toxicwaterfront: If I was you I put the Denon and Shure on sale and with the money and maybe alittle over those 400.00 budget you willadd I will buy a decent universal digital player latest DAC technology ( 32/192 ) as this one:

http://usa.denon.com/us/product/pages/productdetail.aspx?pcatid=avsolutions(denonna)&catid=bluerayplayers(denonna)&catalog=denonna_us&pid=dbt3313udci(denonna)

IMHO you need over 4K on analog to even that digital player quality performance.

Btw, you save space with this unit instead your analog rig and through digital you can have a lot more recordings on the music you like.

regards and enjoy the music,
R.
jjrenman
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Unless you are talking about high rez, IMO, you are sadly mistaken that it takes 4k to beat digital!
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rauliruegas
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Dear Jjrenman: I respect your opinion. Please listen to through that humble Denon a DVDA and you will know what I'm talking about or if you like a SACD and even a good recorded CD.

Even you can compare: try the Soundtrack Film Gladiator on CD and the audiophile LP version, believe me: NO Contest by the LP and like this example many more and this is with a " simple " CD. DVDA or SACD are way better and unbeated by analog counterpart even at 50K.

There are very good reason why that happen.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
jjrenman
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I consider SACD to be high rez. Problem is that most of the new music that I like is not being released on SACD. Maybe that will change with High Rez download's.
toxicwaterfront OP
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I collect records for fun, which is why I'd like to keep the analog system. At the moment, I think I'm gonna get a new turntable and cartridge, and wait a few months to buy a phono stage.

I've been unable to find the Sony PS-X60 online. However, there's a fully automatic turntable up on NeedleDoctor for 500$. It's the Thorens TD-158 that comes mounted with a Dual DMS 251S cartridge. How significant of a difference in sound would it make? Am I better off just getting a vintage DD table?

Again, thank you so much for your answers. I appreciate the help.
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