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Overshadowed by bandmates

I was listening to "Real Time" a live CD by Richard LLoyd, the "other" guitarist to Tom Verlaine in Television. It occurred to me that, while I like Verlaine's style, I ultimately prefer Lloyd's playing. I just didn't really appreciate it till he left the band and crawled out from Verlaine's shadow. This got me thinking. Until he left to start World Party, Karl Wallinger was obscured by Mike Scott while they were bandmates in The Waterboys. Now, I'll take Wallinger over Scott.

Some would say George Harrison suffered this fate, too. I think he was overshadowed by Lennon/Macca for many fans until "All Things Must Pass" and "Bangladesh". Any others come to mind?
martykl
montejay
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Hi Jaybo,
I agree with you. The band kicked &%#$ because Charles surrounded himself with awesome talent.He had a keen ear,but the band, imo, outshined it's leader.Check out Miles 1991 autobiogphy.He loved to pilfer from Lloyd's band!
lindisfarne
511 posts
 
John Cale (VU) and the late great Gary Thain come to mind. Cale's "Paris 1919" still stands as one of the truly great records of all time and, while Uriah Heep was never a great band, they became amazingly tight when Thain came on board. I've still not heard a better rock bass player.
rbrowne
175 posts
 
Regarding Charles Lloyd, "Love-In" recorded live at the Fillmore West was the first recording I bought of him when it came out in LP in 1967. His band for the recording included Keith Jarrett (piano); Ron McClure (bass); Jack DeJohnette (drums).
audiofeil
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>>05-17-09: Gawdbless
A band is only as good as its drummer<<

Ringo Starr
Charlie Watts

Stick a fork in that assertion.
lindisfarne
511 posts
 
Audiofeil-Watts and Starr are not "impressive" drummers BUT they swing like mad and don't miss a beat. You are dead wrong on this one. However, I really did like your picks earlier in this thread.
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