Bradf, the catch is i won an auction on ebay for 1/3 MSRP on the 7.1 2m XLR run, and got used pairs of 7.1 RCAs to make use of the fabulous AKM DAC for SACD in my refurb DVD-A1UDCI. I even had a fake King Cobra RCA pair, immediately noticed the ill fitting pins and lack of "Audioquest" logos, and coarser triple pattern on the sleeves, luckily the seller was reputable reseller with no audiophile experience, so return was painless.