Electrostat transparency from conventional speaker


What should be kept in mind when attempting to achieve the transparent sound quality of an electrostatic speaker from a conventional boxed speaker? Is this more electronics or speaker? Or is it really a combination of the both?

In your opinion, how much does placement or acoustics factor into this?
cdwallace
I'd say your best chance at doing that would be to find a dynamic speaker that has nearly full range out of a single drive element. And one who's drive element has exceptionally low mass and also has a very strong magnetic drive motor.

There are some drive elements that are made primarily for low power SET systems that come close to this equation, although none will actually equal the electrostat for speed.
Squirrel,

Yeah I agree the Electrostats are deficient to the Dynamics except the transparency part, you can see right through most electrostats...not to be confused with magneplanars. :)

CDwallace

Only reason people tolerate electrostatic speakers today is because they are dipoles, thus they are a functional 4 channel systems or primitive surround sound system (2 direct ch., 2 delay ch. (see audioK's post) Fact is without Quad's and Magneplanars, most panel type speakers aren't that good for the $$$'s charged. As a once proud Martin Logan (QuestZ, CLSz) owner I can only shake my head at what is available now for the $$$.

My solution to hard to position (Magneplanar), fragile (Apogee), over-priced (ML, Sound Lab) temperamental (Quad)electrostats was surround sound. I have the big dipole soundstage, endless detail (due to the three channel array) and full range sound (sub) without compromise. And a wonderful engaging warm sound to the music that is easy on the ears from a fatigue standpoint. Its proven that the addition of rear channels engages (ie emotional impact) the listener to a much higher degree than any other device will that doesn't amount to a gross quality difference in playback performance.

Yes, better than two channel!! hard to imagine but its true. My solution was born of frustration 12 years ago and I have never looked back to dipoles. I like having control of the delay so my Viola's don't grow to 6' tall :). A luxury of modern technology i've grown very accustomed too.

PS: the solution is not universal so don't think some primitive Proceed processor is going to do the job! Like any problem it helps to have the right tools to fix it and there is a right way and wrong way to do surround. Don't stray from the textbook.
You might want to consider Spicas. My local dealer said that the Angeluses came closer to the sound of Quads (which he also sold) than any other dynamic speaker. Of course, this was many years ago, and the state fo the art has certainly progressed.
hales, dunlavy, duntech, allison, older AR are five examples, but certainly not the only ones. these brands and others sought a flat response from top to bottom. no exageration of the frequency range and since they are not ported, the roll off in the lowest frequencies is quite gradual. they are generally not as fussy about room placement too. transparency, flat response, tonal accuracy, and if the recording has it....real weight and dynamics...the spica 50 and the chapman t7 are two others. it is more popular, even at the highest end of audio to woo the listener with a combination of detail and staging. this makes for a great demo, but also makes for an unsatisfying pair of loudspeakers when you get beyond audiophile recordings.