hello,
I've enjoyed many responses, RedKiwi especially. Some
of the others, "sell me a bridge" seem like a waste of
reading time. However, why is it we can believe in the
manipulation of !80 processing core !devices on a
computer (this week's announcement) and refuse (some
of the block heads I've known ) to believe that there
is a difference in digital cables "because it's all
just 1s and 0s". Steven Hawkin can think at his
computer and type 2 letters per second. Why do I
mention these things? Well, to say that there are
things going on that we maybe yet cannot explain, but
similar things are being manipulated and measured; and
maybe someday we will be able to explain. Is there one
person on her who hasn't heard the difference in
digital cables? How can that be if it's all "just 1s
and 0s"? We are still in the swamp if we accept that
brass connectors are as good a conductor as copper,
are as good as OFC, are as good as HCC, are as good a
coductor as Silver. However, speed and depth are often
difficult to obtain at the same time. Silver is a
faster conductor, yet is the hystersis that you are
avoiding, the worst thing? The difference in silver is
how it is annealed. What is that, other than a the
processing of the metal to make a better metal. It is
like the difference between drawn and poured copper.
Okay, all analogous? Maybe not enough for some, but
those two, and cryo effects are in a close similarity
but via different means. Who here does not believe in
annealing? Does that person only believe because they
read it in a way that pleased them? If it had been
written in a manner that was "over their head" they'd
come away without belief. For those of us who would
say, that when molecules stop moving, they can settle
into closer proximity; (a less than quantum
explanation) is that good enough? A silver digital,
can sound different than a copper one. Suspend
disbelief if
you've not heard it, and go try some. If you are in
the "I must hear it" or the "I'll never hear it" then
you've alread go a strong "mind over matter" and you
can hear what you want, without a sound system, as it
is only giving suggestions and not sound you are
hearing. But lets go deeper, compare a high purity
silver, with that same silver that has been gold
plated. If you can, compare that to some "pure" (I
can't even define that in this case) *gold wire and
see if you do not hear a difference. Silver, copper,
aluminum, and gold are the top 4 conductors. Try this,
and tell me there is not a difference in sound. You
should be able to do this in audio, or your system is
two cups and a string. But you will most probably be
able to tell this is the digital rhelm. Why? Someone
more articulate can explain it. A big fan of cryo is
Jim at P.A.D., Stu at Vampire can explain it, Ed
Mitner was one of the first to use it; Mr. Wright,
(his head teck, who disagrees with proffit margins)
believes in cryo's effects. My AM listening Dad, can
pick out cryo'd vs non cryo'd CDs (two copies bought
at the same time one treated one not) he can also hear
the difference between those treated by Geoff's chip
and those not. It is actually a similar effect for
those who've heard one and not the other. But unless
you are a "Levinson, it must sound the best" or "there
can't be a difference in something I choose not to
believe" type; you may have to step up to the
responsibility of experience. I have found every
cryo'd a/b examination I've done to show it to be an
audio improvement. Maybe somewhere it could make
something lose depth wor weightiness; but I've not
heard it. I say it sounds more like the upgrade from
brass to OF copper jacks. "Just cleaner and clearer".
Can anyone here explain how simple electronic theries
speak for the differences in power cables? If we think
about it as a bass cable, sure it all applies, and
that's what it seems to sound like. But though it is
only operating at 50-60 hz, the characteristics are
that of the full range. So how does that equate? If
you have the spare, time, (I;'ve done it) compare a
silver outlet and a gold one. (redefine, ACME, without
cyote and roadrunner stickers silver plated vs
Furuteck Gold plated). it will possibly open your
mind. Where is the sense in saying that something
can't exist? If it is to fight for all of our good, so
that we *sheeple are not taken by those who would want
us to see the Emperor's new clothes" it in fact is
worse. Those who can be fooled will, those who can be
fooled and can afford may buy, those who can't afford
won't, so it narrows the margin; and those who despite
the campaining will still try to listen... will hear
or not hear the diff. comparatively, saying "it just
ain't so, it just ain't so" is saying "a human, cannot
experience", "a human won't experience", and beyond
human experiece "I can measure the smallest degree
that you can't in order to determine it ain't there".
Maybe they do change the set-up of TVs, but do they
also put one amp through a power cleaner and the
comparison amp straight into the wall? Unless you've
been there for 20 min to 2 hours, are they both
equally warmed up?
I've never been to China, but they say it's there...
oh Hi Marco, how was your trip?
Will you like it? ?????? Cryo can make a difference in
the audio experience, don't tell me please, that I've
not heard it. What kind of metal does your
manufacturer use in their RCA's? :)
I've enjoyed many responses, RedKiwi especially. Some
of the others, "sell me a bridge" seem like a waste of
reading time. However, why is it we can believe in the
manipulation of !80 processing core !devices on a
computer (this week's announcement) and refuse (some
of the block heads I've known ) to believe that there
is a difference in digital cables "because it's all
just 1s and 0s". Steven Hawkin can think at his
computer and type 2 letters per second. Why do I
mention these things? Well, to say that there are
things going on that we maybe yet cannot explain, but
similar things are being manipulated and measured; and
maybe someday we will be able to explain. Is there one
person on her who hasn't heard the difference in
digital cables? How can that be if it's all "just 1s
and 0s"? We are still in the swamp if we accept that
brass connectors are as good a conductor as copper,
are as good as OFC, are as good as HCC, are as good a
coductor as Silver. However, speed and depth are often
difficult to obtain at the same time. Silver is a
faster conductor, yet is the hystersis that you are
avoiding, the worst thing? The difference in silver is
how it is annealed. What is that, other than a the
processing of the metal to make a better metal. It is
like the difference between drawn and poured copper.
Okay, all analogous? Maybe not enough for some, but
those two, and cryo effects are in a close similarity
but via different means. Who here does not believe in
annealing? Does that person only believe because they
read it in a way that pleased them? If it had been
written in a manner that was "over their head" they'd
come away without belief. For those of us who would
say, that when molecules stop moving, they can settle
into closer proximity; (a less than quantum
explanation) is that good enough? A silver digital,
can sound different than a copper one. Suspend
disbelief if
you've not heard it, and go try some. If you are in
the "I must hear it" or the "I'll never hear it" then
you've alread go a strong "mind over matter" and you
can hear what you want, without a sound system, as it
is only giving suggestions and not sound you are
hearing. But lets go deeper, compare a high purity
silver, with that same silver that has been gold
plated. If you can, compare that to some "pure" (I
can't even define that in this case) *gold wire and
see if you do not hear a difference. Silver, copper,
aluminum, and gold are the top 4 conductors. Try this,
and tell me there is not a difference in sound. You
should be able to do this in audio, or your system is
two cups and a string. But you will most probably be
able to tell this is the digital rhelm. Why? Someone
more articulate can explain it. A big fan of cryo is
Jim at P.A.D., Stu at Vampire can explain it, Ed
Mitner was one of the first to use it; Mr. Wright,
(his head teck, who disagrees with proffit margins)
believes in cryo's effects. My AM listening Dad, can
pick out cryo'd vs non cryo'd CDs (two copies bought
at the same time one treated one not) he can also hear
the difference between those treated by Geoff's chip
and those not. It is actually a similar effect for
those who've heard one and not the other. But unless
you are a "Levinson, it must sound the best" or "there
can't be a difference in something I choose not to
believe" type; you may have to step up to the
responsibility of experience. I have found every
cryo'd a/b examination I've done to show it to be an
audio improvement. Maybe somewhere it could make
something lose depth wor weightiness; but I've not
heard it. I say it sounds more like the upgrade from
brass to OF copper jacks. "Just cleaner and clearer".
Can anyone here explain how simple electronic theries
speak for the differences in power cables? If we think
about it as a bass cable, sure it all applies, and
that's what it seems to sound like. But though it is
only operating at 50-60 hz, the characteristics are
that of the full range. So how does that equate? If
you have the spare, time, (I;'ve done it) compare a
silver outlet and a gold one. (redefine, ACME, without
cyote and roadrunner stickers silver plated vs
Furuteck Gold plated). it will possibly open your
mind. Where is the sense in saying that something
can't exist? If it is to fight for all of our good, so
that we *sheeple are not taken by those who would want
us to see the Emperor's new clothes" it in fact is
worse. Those who can be fooled will, those who can be
fooled and can afford may buy, those who can't afford
won't, so it narrows the margin; and those who despite
the campaining will still try to listen... will hear
or not hear the diff. comparatively, saying "it just
ain't so, it just ain't so" is saying "a human, cannot
experience", "a human won't experience", and beyond
human experiece "I can measure the smallest degree
that you can't in order to determine it ain't there".
Maybe they do change the set-up of TVs, but do they
also put one amp through a power cleaner and the
comparison amp straight into the wall? Unless you've
been there for 20 min to 2 hours, are they both
equally warmed up?
I've never been to China, but they say it's there...
oh Hi Marco, how was your trip?
Will you like it? ?????? Cryo can make a difference in
the audio experience, don't tell me please, that I've
not heard it. What kind of metal does your
manufacturer use in their RCA's? :)