Room Acoustics question:

Zargon,
I wish I was near my reference materials rite now! I think it was Strabo or Herodotus who mentioned that the ratio of side to area of base was 1/2......I simply can't remember.
Bottom line? Phi was used in calculation:

Also, Pi=6/5 phi2.

Yes, there is Substantial disagreement. However, and this is WAY beyond a Hi-Fi posting, the numbers/ratios of such monumental constructions simply don't lie.
Way TOO much to go into here. PM me for more information, some of which is non-standard. I have met several professional Egyptologists and they typically, though very smart, would have trouble balancing there own checkbook.

Adampeter, sorry as we seemed to have hijacked your thread. It started with a comment that your room dimensions seemed similar to the Golden Mean. I don't believe they are, however, if so, that would have meant that there was good reason to believe room modes would be fairly evenly distributed.

I think the size of your room is a positive for creating a large sound stage and image. You will be able to keep the speakers well away from reflecting boundaries and will have the space to move them to maximize bass performance. Every room has its challenges, but large rooms have more flexible solutions.

Do not worry about the concrete floor. Many great listening rooms have them, and you are avoiding the possibility of floor resonance and footfall issues on a TT. A thick carpet is just fine and will minimize high frequency reflections and help damp reflections.

I happen to believe there are many ways to design a good listening room and using the Golden Mean is one of the ways to approach good bass performance. I have done exactly that currently in my own room and it works extremely well. I don't know the limitations of your space (fireplaces, doors, windows etc.) but if you have the option to shorten the room with a new partition, here is one to consider.

Starting with 30 x 20 x 8.5

Go to 30 x 18.5 x 8.5 and fill the 1.5 ft space behind the rear wall with damping material. Put speakers about 3.5 ft in front of the short wall about 8 ft apart and 5 ft off the side walls. This is very close to what I had in a previous room which worked well.

If you are interested in this approach, it would be helpful if you described your room conditions in more detail.

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Magfan, You are correct, it was Herodotus who is credited to have said "the pyramid's base is square, each side is eight plethra long and its height the same". Translations of this statement have been reinterpreted by many, and somewhat twisted to say "the square of the pyramid's height is equal to the area of its triangular lateral side." If so, one could argue that the pyramid was designed such that the ratio of the height of its triangular face to half the side of the base is equal to the golden ratio. Not only is this a stretch, it fails because the actual pyramid measurements do not come close to those implied by the statement.

Halcro....we're both right.
While phi is derived from the fibonacci series, and the further you go, the better the resolution of the number, so it IS a 'ratio'
It is also an irrational number.....like pi, which some simplify to 22/7 for ease of calculation.
While I know the simple way to derive phi, I know of no such way to derive pi. Is there one?

That such a ratio can have so many uses and applications is a miracle of nature and the universe.
Look up, 'The Monk Drunk on Wine' a book from the middle ages.