Electrician's advice wanted: safely lifting ground


Hi all,

I've got a ground loop in my system between the preamp and multiple amps. The cheater plug experiment on the amp power cords not only solves the hum but also lowers the noise floor a bit more. So I would like to do this correctly in a safer, more permanent way.

Bringing all of the power cords in the system to one socket helped also but isn't as quiet as with the grounds lifted.

Can I change the circuit breaker to a GFIC and then tie ground to neutral at the wall socket so that there are no adapters involved? If this isn't the way to go please advise on what is. Even if I don't do this myself I'd like to know so that I can talk with an electrician.

Thanks
dan_ed
Dan_ed - If device was designed with grounded chassis removing this ground creates danger of high voltage appearing on the metal and killing somebody. Yes, a lot of things would have to go wrong but that's how accidents happen. I'm not sure if GFCI can legally replace ground but at least gives you some protection. Imagine that hot 110V wire got loose and touches case inside while person places hand on the case touching another piece of equipment that is grounded. Current will flow thru the body but won't return to GFCI Neutral. GFCI will "see" different currents coming out and returning and will switch off.
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yeah, some folks are afraid of tube amps, imagine that. like capt. beefheart said it's "safe as milk" :)
Wow, what a great thread, I really like (and agree with) Elizabeth's rules for living, and who'd believe someone would actually quote Captain Beefheart. Way to go, Pehare. This thread has really brought out the "inner poet" in you two.

Regarding ground loops, consider trying Jensen input transformers just ahead of your amps. Totally solved my problem going from a single-ended preamp to my balanced only amps. Went from all sorts of noise (almost sold the Clayton's) to dead-nuts quiet. Go to their website and give them a call - very helpful folks and the stuff is not that expensive. BTW, since you have "multiple amps" be aware that they sell single line models of the transformers that may be logistically easier for you than the twin versions shown on the website. They will make them as you need, rca-rca, xlr-xlr, rca to xlr, and xlr to rca.
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