Drew,
Thanks for sharing your experience with the Linkwitz Orion.
I like the effects I heard with the Celestion but I'm not confident I can reproduce the same results by just mocking up the design. I rather play it safe and go with a tested design.
I can't tell how significant it is the Celestion Subs have their drivers facing each outer is. I don't know how much of a factor it is in creating that dramatic mid-bass cleanness and punch. I figure I should be able to replicate the punch if I also use 4x12" drivers and perhaps use one of the designs that don't have them firing at opposing ends.
The physics of having drivers firing directly at each other seems complicated to me. Whether they will cancel, reinforce or interfere with frequency output. I can't tell if the gap distance in that configuration matters. I guess, I can experiment by building a rig to have two woofers facing each other and play various tunes through it as I manipulate the gap separation.
My room is only 22'x24'x8' and it is pretty well damped as it's right next to my master bedroom and I had to insulated well to allow my wife to sleep during my late listening sessions. But I can't imagine having 24 15" bass drivers firing off in my music room. No amount of sound insulation is going to hold that back :-)
I think I looking for more dynamic impact and fullness in the sound than just deep seismic bass. I'm a jazz/pop/light rock kinda guy, so I'm not a total bass freak.
The Sanders Sound panels covers a wide freq range pretty well on it's own. It covers 173hz-> over 20Khz. So I'm really just looking for the bass rig to cover 20hz->173. I would like to find dipole drivers that can serve this range well and I am concern about the ringing of the woofers as it will be box-less design. It will have to be something that provides servo/braking to keep the bass notes true.
Thanks for sharing your experience with the Linkwitz Orion.
I like the effects I heard with the Celestion but I'm not confident I can reproduce the same results by just mocking up the design. I rather play it safe and go with a tested design.
I can't tell how significant it is the Celestion Subs have their drivers facing each outer is. I don't know how much of a factor it is in creating that dramatic mid-bass cleanness and punch. I figure I should be able to replicate the punch if I also use 4x12" drivers and perhaps use one of the designs that don't have them firing at opposing ends.
The physics of having drivers firing directly at each other seems complicated to me. Whether they will cancel, reinforce or interfere with frequency output. I can't tell if the gap distance in that configuration matters. I guess, I can experiment by building a rig to have two woofers facing each other and play various tunes through it as I manipulate the gap separation.
My room is only 22'x24'x8' and it is pretty well damped as it's right next to my master bedroom and I had to insulated well to allow my wife to sleep during my late listening sessions. But I can't imagine having 24 15" bass drivers firing off in my music room. No amount of sound insulation is going to hold that back :-)
I think I looking for more dynamic impact and fullness in the sound than just deep seismic bass. I'm a jazz/pop/light rock kinda guy, so I'm not a total bass freak.
The Sanders Sound panels covers a wide freq range pretty well on it's own. It covers 173hz-> over 20Khz. So I'm really just looking for the bass rig to cover 20hz->173. I would like to find dipole drivers that can serve this range well and I am concern about the ringing of the woofers as it will be box-less design. It will have to be something that provides servo/braking to keep the bass notes true.