DId lightening strike twice? Amp s problem


OK, so I'm pretty frustrated 'cause I'm not sure I believe that two amps can apparently fail (same symptoms) minutes apart. Just got a pair of Hornings from Trelja and they sound great, but I had a bit of a low hum that was just barely audible at the listening position w/o any music playing. Amp is a VAC Ren 30/30 MKIII. I check cabling, try lifting ground on the amp, plug it into my Dodd power conditioner, then direct to the wall, swap out power cords, no help. So I sez to myself, we'll see how the Hornings sound w a little EL-34 magic, so I swap in my Doshi-modified Lectron JH-50. As soon as the start-up relay closes, I get a very loud buzz!! Not a hum but a loud buzz, increasing in volume for a few seconds after the relay closes until I get to the power switch. Figuring that maybe something happened while the amp has been sitting idle for about a year, I swallow about 6 advil, disconnect the pre and the source components, shut down all of the computers, sacrifice a goat and swap the VAC back in (man, I thought that the iron on the Lectron was heavy; the VAC should come w a crane!) Hook it back up, power up and SAME F'N BUZZ. W the VAC it's a little different; you begin to hear it at very low volume while the start-up sequence is finishing, gradually ramping up until the relay closes and then WHAM. Same in both channels. The VAC has variable feedback via a rotary switch on the rear apron and if I increase the feedback, the volume of the buzz does come down a bit, but its still so loud you could never listen to music and I'm afraid it will damage the speakers. I've tried running an extension from another outlet, I've tried running each amp from the conditioner and from the wall. I disconnected the cable box from the power and the cable (TV in same room, but not interconnected to main rig). I've swapped out i/cs. I've tried it w and w/o ics connected to the amp's input(yes w speakers hooked up...I made that mistake once, years ago and learned my lesson!). Same thing. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
128x128swampwalker
VAC does not buzz w inputs shorted; the same low as before but no buzz.
The Doshi still buzzing like a madman.

Not sure what that means but there it is. Can't find my multi-meter..yet.

Cables originally were Jade Audio Vermeil. Changed to an unlabeled pair; I forget the brand but not G0ertz.
Try unplugging the TV and everything else in sight that could conceivably be generating and radiating RFI/EMI into the amps. The fact that the VAC buzzes when the inputs are unconnected, but does not buzz when the inputs are shorted, may be an indication that the unconnected inputs are picking up some kind of interference that is radiating from some other electronic device. And perhaps the Doshi is picking up the same RFI/EMI at an internal circuit point that is not affected by having its inputs shorted.

Also, if you have a portable battery powered AM radio, set it to an unused frequency near the bottom of the band (e.g., 540 kHz), and if it picks up any audible interference that gets louder and lower at various places in the room, use it to track down the source.

Also, when you find the multimeter run some checks with it on the AC outlets. Set it to measure AC volts, on one of the higher voltage scales. You should measure approximately 120 volts between the two vertical slots in the outlet. You should also measure approximately 120 volts between the smaller of those slots and the screw that holds the wallplate on, and between that smaller slot and the safety ground connection in the receptacle. You should measure close to zero volts between the larger of those slots and the screw that holds the wallplate on, and between that larger slot and the safety ground connection in the receptacle.

Best,
-- Al
Unless I'm missing it, I don't see any reference made to your swapping the interconnects with something different. They're made of silver, and break easily. I see a reference made to speaker cables (Jade Audio Vermeil), same brand, but not the Jade Audio interconnects.
Hifitime- Yes, I have a full loom of Jade Vermeil. Good deduction and good idea. When swapped in the ss amp, I used the i/c that was already connected to it. I will change the i/c and report back.
Changed 1/cs but as far as I can tell, that is not the issue. What seems to make the difference is changing the position on the ground switch on the Doshi Alazap pre-amp when paired w the VAC. The switch is not labeled, but toggled one way, loud buzz, toggled the other way just back to the moderate hummmm this whole episode started with. Maybe I'll swap my Lightspeed passive back in and what that does. I certainly don't need any pre-amp gain w the 96 dB Hornings.