Complementary power conditioner for recent Hydra ?

Thanks Mross and Lacee.
I have upgraded all outlets to 20 amp industrial grade, leviton, I think. Cosidering an upgrade to all Hubbell HBL5362, their top industrial grade and having them all cyro'd to -300 as there's a lot of positive talk about cyro generally, and I recently discovered Ed Meitner has been using it for years.
I have dedicated lines, one digital one amp+pre.
Lacee. did you experiment puttng your other conditioning units before the Furman. I have heard it may be better. Did you compre with equitech?

I never had a chance to compare either of the Furmans directly with an EQuitech,that would be fun.

Inside the Furman is a very large transformer,and the larger one works best on a 20 amp line,so I never thought it wise to plug it into either of the Hydras.Something just doesn't sit well with me going that way, so I never tried it,perhaps I should as I've lived on the edge bypassing fuses for years.

Somethingelse that stops me from going that route is the thought that what the Hydra does to clean up the power maybe all in vain once it passes thru the Furman and becomes balanced.

So I figure, balance the power first and clean up the power that's just been balanced.

So far I've not heard from anyone who has gone the way you inquired about ,Elizabeth tends to feel it should be the other way around so you are not alone in your thinking.

I wish someone from Furman or Equitech or Shunyata could helps us with this dilema.

Regarding outlets,Shunyata already has cryod outlets that you can buy,I have a couple of them and they were better than any of the stock Hubbels I tried,but they were not cyod.They are the same outlets they used in their original Hydra series, maybe they use something different now.

I did spring for the Furutech GTX Gold, receptacle and I am quite impressed with the build quality,and the tight locking fit.
I run them on the dedicted line with my two power amps plugged directly into it.
I suggest you take a look at those before you take the plunge and buy at least one for your most power thirsty component,most likely your amp.They also come with the cryo treatment, and as I mentioned I've not seen a more robust receptacle,which is impressive compared to any stock receptacle.

How could it not sound better?

I would compare it to Cardas Clear and a stock one would be 18 guage zip wire.

Lacee, have you tried the Hydra plugged into the Furman?

In general, I'd stay away from daisy-chaining conditioners or using multiple conditioners of differing design in the same system. From our experience and from those we've spoken with that have tried combining, more is not better. Not to mention the fact that AC traveling through added junctions in front of current-sensitive electronics is counterintuitive based on the manner in which AV components draw current.

Shunyata's design POV is pointed toward getting out of the way of peak-current transfer from the wall to the components. All Shunyata products from cords to Hydras to outlets minimize resistance characteristics and avoid the use of reactance that can interfere with the conditioning in component power supplies. That design tenet runs contrary to balanced power, transformers, chokes and regenerators.

We're not holding that our way is better, just stating that using two entirely different approaches to power distribution in the same system isn't "covering more bases". Instead, it is over-complicating the delivery path for current and adding unnecessary connections. It's better to compare and choose one delivery device or distribution system that you prefer.

Regards,

Grant
Shunyata Research

I have plugged the Hydra into the Furman, but never the other way around.

I don't do that anymore,the Furman is in the HT system, the Hydra is into dedicated lines music only system.

I felt the sound was lacking speed when paired up.
So I would agree with what Grant states.

Also, simpler is usually better.