Is iPod Digital Output Possible?


I've been scouring through all the ipod accessories and cannot find what I am looking for. Perhaps it does not exist. I was wondering if there is any cable or dock that will allow me to extract a digital output from my iPod video (or any iPod for that matter)? There's plenty of adapters to pull the analog out, but it seems like you always need a computer interface to get digital output. Why? Is it just a matter of software to sort out the library? More to the point; I want to connect my iPod directly to my DAC or even to my Waveterminal (requires the squareish delivery end of a USB cable) to my DAC...is this possible? Has this been discussed previously? If so, where the heck was I? No, don't answer that last part! The authorities may be listening in! Just tell me how to get a digital stream out of my iPod if it's possible.

Marco
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Hector - I have an Alpine head unit in the same series, and the same KCA-4201 iPod interface. That was the unit that made me curious if what I'm asking is possible. Alpine makes a nice head unit, but I find the iPod interface to be a bit tedious...don't you? It's still great to have access to such a great variety of music in the car, especially when driving long distance.

Marco
As a subset of this discussion, can anyone please suggest which of the new iPods might be most suitable to audiophile applications?

Would you just get the biggest, most expensive, video iPod? Or as audiophiles, does it make more sense to skip the video, perhaps gaining longer battery life or something?

Is the possibility for digital output the same for all models?
The only rumor I've heard that indicates any advantage was in the HeadFi forum where someone opined that the op-amp (line-out) in the more recent (video) iPods was slightly improved from the previous versions with a bit more robust output. I don't know if this is true or not. I find the output on my line out to be just barely adequate for listening on the edge of loud. If others were worse than this then I'd say definitely go for a more current version of the video ipod. Other than that, I just went for the most storage capacity, which happens to be a video iPod (60gb). I don't know if any of the current large-capacity offerings from apple are anything but "video" ipods. The only other type of ipods being offered are the smaller units with much less capacity. Unless you are using mp3's, you will be severely limiting yourself in terms of how much music will fit on one. And if you're using mp3s you may as well just glue some nails to the ends of the earbuds and call it a day. Of course if you have to have some pop star's autograph emblazened across the back of your iPod to go with your celebrity sports-star approved basketball shoes, well, then again you are limiting your selection.

Marco
Marco,

There is third party software out now that will copy your tunes from your Ipod to your computer. Which means yes there is a digital output of the Ipod now just how you access that I don't know.

Sorry I could not be of more help.

Michael
As an addendum to my ramblings here, I discovered that the problem I was having was with the $99 device that was providing the line output on my iPod. Can't recall the manufacturer, but I believe they were the only ones offering a dock with dual RCA line-outputs. Whatever circuitry they put between the dock and those RCA's was wreaking havoc with my output signal and the music sounded awful. I exchanged it for the much cheaper iDock and went with a $69 Signal Cable silver iPod interconnect and have been happy as a clam since. I recently noticed this mini-system by Monitor Audio claiming to be getting a digital output signal from the iPod lower connection, which it runs to its own DAC and bypassing the DAC in the iPod. If this is so, apparently it is possible...why isn't anyone making a simple cable or converter to do this?