Record Cleaning Machines

As a satisfied Nitty Gritty user since the early l980s, I've never understood the bit about the VPI providing a "stable platform." Do you guys bear down so hard while scrubbing that you're in danger of breaking the record? The plain old manual Nitty Gritty 1 (or its clone from Audio Advisor) enables you to scrub away too, without the encumbrances and closed-in nature of the VPI, and then draws the record crud DOWN rather than depositing stuff on the platform. I know, different strokes and YMMV. Good luck, whatever you decide, Dave.

To clarify:

I currently use the disk doctor fluids & a nitty gritty 1.5....(since the mid 80's)

I wanted something more convenient (automatic)... I have purchased almost all of the LP's I have when new.... so heavy scrubbing is not something that I've had to worry about. I guess it comes down to convenience, noise (& if I'm honest, a new toy for Chana-Chrisma-Kwanz-akkuh).

The monks machine on ebay is getting out of reach, I may go for a nitty gritty minipro 1. What do you think?

I researched these machines before purchasing, and if I could have afforded it I probably would have bought the Keith Monks. It is ridiculously expensive.
I ended up buying the Loricraft because I felt the VPI may require more long term maintenance - that was my feeling anyway.
There seem to be more VPI accessories to purchase, and I felt the Loricraft was a better design.
The Loricraft is essentially the same as the Keith Monks (from what I could tell) except you need to apply the liquid by hand, and have to set up the vacuum pump. It can be quite fun. The brush supplied by Loricraft to apply liquid works awful.
I use a soft foam paint brush to apply the liquid.

I understand there are a couple new versions of the Loricraft- I think they are probably not necessary. The way that this machine cleans records, I will never be tempted to buy another record cleaning machine- and that is no bull.

Will

Anyone heard about the Zenn machine?

I think it's manual scrub, followed by high speed spin to dry the record centrifigully (if that's a word).

RCM's all suck (the dirt out of the grooves)- so there isn't much difference. The 16.5 is good. I got the cheapest effective one Record Doctor II (effectively the Nitty Gritty) after trying out more expensive ones. It's not hifi gear, so no sense in trying to differentiate the suttle nuances of them. "a fool and his money are soon parted"