What kind of outlet wall plate do yo use?


I was reading a post over on AA last week. The post was about outlet wall plates, non magnetic stainless steel wall plates.

I had seen these posts in the past on AA but always passed them over never really reading them. This time I took the time to read the post and reponses to it.

To cut to the chase I went out and found some non magnetic stainless steel outlet plates at a lumber yard. I must stop here and tell you I was a bit skeptical that I would hear any difference in sound from my system.

I pulled the plastic plates from my 3 dedicated duplex outlets and installed the ss plates. I plugged the equipment back in and turned on the system. I let it warm up for about a half hour and then sat down for a listen.

The first CD I listened to was Diana Krall, "The Girl in The Other Room." I could hear a difference right off, but not for the better. Sound stage was small, Krall's piano sounded like a blanket had been thrown over it. The air had been let out of the music.
I listened to a few other CDs with the same results.

I then carefully pulled the ss plates from the outlets for the preamp and the power amp. Just sliding them down on the cords out of the way. I sat back down for a listen. Every thing was back as it was before I had installed the ss plates.

I should mention here my preamp is a Sonic Frontiers line-1, and the power amp is an Audio Research VT50.
The three 20 amp branch circuits are installed in EMT conduit. The rough-in boxes are 4"x4" 2 1/8" deep with a single gang raised device cover for the sheetrock wall and electrical outlet mounting. Wire is #10 awg solid THHN copper. Recepts Leviton 20A Hosp Grade. Branch circuit breakers single pole Square D OQ. Branch circuits breakers installed on the same line in the panel. Distance from electrical panel less than 25ft.

I still was puzzled why there was any difference in sound at all. I then, just for the hell of it, installed two leviton stainless steel plates. One for the power amp outlet and the other for the preamp outlet. A magnet will stick to the leviton plates like gorilla glue...

I plugged the gear back in, turned on the system and let it warm up for about a half hour or so. I then sat down for a listen. The sound, not bad. Remember this is the electrical wall outlet plate. First impressions the sound is darker, vocals smoother, more body, fuller.

I will compare the leviton ss plate to the plastic plate later after my ears have had a chance to adjust to this new sound.

Have any of you guys experimented with the wall outlet cover plates?
Why is there a difference in sound? When I first read the post I thought maybe it was due to the rigidity effect the plate was placing on the electrical outlet. Was it working as a damper of sorts. I mean a non magnetic ss cover plate verses a plastic plate.
Why did the non magnetic ss plate degrade the sound of my system?
With the Leviton ss plates are they providing shielding, in effect a Faraday cage.

By the way I asked the person, who posted the thread, why the plate changed the sound on his system. Some of those tweakers can be quite defensive when you question them. Though he was not others were.
I also should mention the member is using solid state gear.

Jim

jea48
>>"However, if I place a plastic outlet cover over the silver fillings on the right side of my mouth everything sounds really liquid. So far my wife hasn't complained about the drool stains on my shirts."<<
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Grant did you try a nylon cover plate by chance.

Your story of the drool stains on your shirts reminded of Dudley Moore in the move "10". I can still see him after his visit to the Dentist in the coffee shop, LOL.

Jim
I didn't say anything about going faster or improving fuel economy, a perfect example of hearing(reading) what you want to hear.
Albertporter, Last night I stopped at Home Depot. They did not have any of the Pass & Seymour nylon plates, but they did have some made by Leviton. Leviton ProGrade "Midway" Unbreakable nylon commercial grade. Kind of pricey, 44 cents each.

I listened to my system last night for about 2 hours. With the Leviton nylon plate my system has a slightly different sonic signature than the Leviton ss plate. Bass was about the same. Vocals were very smooth. The nylon plate did not quite have the bloom the ss plate had. That is the ss plate with the trim screw removed. With the trim screw used the sound of the nylon plate was better.

Tonight I stopped at Menards, a midwestern lumber yard, to see if they had the P&S plates you are using. I think they are the same, TP8-W, W=white, 27 cents each.... I pulled the Leviton nylon plates and installed the nylon P&S plates. Plugged the gear back in turned on the system and let things warm up for about 45 min or so. I then sat down for a listen. Again I could hear a difference in sound with the P&S plates. Compared to the nylon Leviton plates the sound from my system, with the P&S plates, there was more air, more detail, very clean. Vocals, not quite as smooth. Bass did not seem to be as deep.

Albert I would not begin to compare my modest audio system to yours. But if you get a chance would you try the Leviton plates I described above and give us your thoughts.

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Members,
I spoke earlier of the sound from my system using the stainless steel plates and not using the trim screw. I discovered this by accident. When I first installed them I fastened them to the duplex outlet with the trim screw. When I wanted to listen without the ss plate I removed the screws from the plates and pulled the plates onto the power cords. When I wanted to hear the effect with the plates I just pushed them back over the outlet, placing a small piece of scotch tape on the top of the plate to the wall to hold it in place.

NEC 2005 406.5 (B)
"Grounding. Metal faceplates shall be grounded."

Jim


I can't believe I read throuh all of this! The bottom line on wall plates is the best ones for audio are made of WOOD {8~ ) The best wood ones you can get are made of TEAK and can be purchased at yatch supply houses for about $25.00. How's that for HI-End???