Is live reproduction the goal of audio?


Is the ultimate direction of electronics to reproduce the original performance as though it were live?
lakefrontroad
Hey now that i got the pebble in between my teeth....do you want it back

I got into it for the music as well . Then ,as any guy here I started to fool around and tweak and tune and there it was....how to fill your room with so much hollographic music and sound that it just blew my mind.

I used to own a 100k plus system but sold it here on the Gon. You know set up wth all the bells and whistles ,a al hi-fi . Now that I fell into another way of presenting a better sonic "whole" . Nothing to do wih plug and play.

I guess if you own a stereo you qualify ,but why dump on bose then?
I guess if you own a stereo you qualify ,but why dump on bose then?

Touche! I dump on Bose because I know that for the same amount of money you can have a much more rewarding investment. But that's just my opinion, as is everything I'm putting out here. I am not under the illusion that my opinion should be applicable to everyone. Fact is there's nothing really wrong with Bose that a sledgehammer and a dumpster wouldn't fix. Oh damn, there I go again. I didn't learn the lesson you were teaching. Back in the early 80's when I popped my audiophile cherry I had a good friend with a pair of Bose 901's hanging in his Brooklyn loft. Powered, no doubt, by some mass-market SS system. It sure filled the loft with sound, but had no redeaming qualities I can recall other than being capable of playing loudly. Around the same time I was introduced to some modest systems that were probably less expensive than the Bose rig, yet were very memorable. Some I recall to this day with great fondness. I'd like to send them cards and flowers every year, but I've lost their addresses.

On the other hand, my neighbor was showing off an airplane to me that he's building in his workshop . While I was there he had a little boombox thing playing some music. For a garage boombox it didn't sound too bad. Beter than you average boombox. It was a Bose Wave radio. Go figure.

Marco
There are a lot of different type of sledge hammers and in my little town there are three companies who can provide dumpsters for bose speakers.
Are there any sledge hammers that are better than the others, or is it all height and weight dependant? What color dumpster works best for bose speakers, or is that model dependant?
If one speaker is a bigger piece of crap does it require a larger dumpster even though the speaker dimensions are not any larger than those of another speaker?
The advice I get on Audiogon is so helpful in so many aspects of my life.
You see ...that's what the thinking is. If someone in the know puts the so so system in an room that is to die for sonicly then we are not talking the same game. Then then the logic is if we spend 100000 in an environment that can do the same for the cheaper stuff then it's the best.

When any engineer ....from cars to hi-fi wants to go to greatness he must forget the logic and and start removing the "mass" ....light and powerful etc. In hi-fi the more we pay to justify our spending the more thing weighs tons. The only field that goes against science. Look at the old type boat anker amps ....sales are dropping. Look at the new "less mass" generation.

From computer to car to homes and ipods ....better lighter engineering. Hi-fi 1000lbs systems are old school.
C5150: you lost me bro'. Sorry but my puny brain can't cope with your exposition on boiled steak.

Hey we're in this particular universe at this time, who knows where or what universe we might end up in the next moment? But art, and especially music, that exists in time, frequency and dynamic range is the most kinetic of all art forms. There is no spatial element to boiled steak, dynamic range and maybe time to chew and injest, but the frequency response is very limited. And one bite may be as boring or exciting as the next.

I don't think one needs to spend $100,000 or even $10,000 to achieve sonic satisfaction, but earbuds with MP3 lossy encoding plain SUCKS and I can hear it and detest it. So don't tell me that your iPOD is nirvana, cause I won't buy it. And I'll tell you something else, when all those kids with their earbuds and iPODs do grow up and realize what they're missing, they'll be stocking up on those horrible boat anchor amps and good speakers simply becuase they SOUND BETTER.