what is good sound ?


when evaluating stereo systems, should the performance of the stereo system itself be the reference point, or should the listener be the basis for the evaluation ?

if the instrinsic quality of sound is the basis for judgment, then such concepts as transparency, neutrality or accuracy might be the standard for evaluation.

otherwise, the listener would be the sole judge and whatever criterion, be it based upon sonic considerations or physiological/psychological states, would be the deciding factor.

whatever approach is selected, what is the justification for either one ?
mrtennis
Let me take a stab at it.

I think what Mr Tennis really means is " what is good sound to you?"

Meaning How do you choose your equipement? Based on measurements first, then listening for neutrality, accuracy, and transperancy then make, looks, proud of ovnership, bragging rights etc (in that order) even if it does not make you completely emotionally happy??

v/s if you were to choose based on lisening only ignoring if it measures rather poor on paper or you acknowledging in your mind that this particular system has colors at certain freq bands in absolute sense. Like may be upper harmonics are touch overblown, mid balance is rather weak but the bass is solid making the system sound rather romantic and smooth that actually sounds richer than neutral or real. But it brings you absolute emotional happiness regardless of its price and apparent faults

What is your leaning? What is good sound to you?
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MrT is a find mucker, plain and simple. It's how he entertains himself. Find Mucking.

Futher mucking find mucker, mucked my find and now my noggin's knocked up!


i'll try one last time.

there are two ways to approach the question "what is good sound ?"

the first is based upon the intrinsic qualities of the sound of instruments produced by the stereo system

the second, is based upon extrinsic criteria, having nothing to do with the quality of the sound but rather a listener's reaction to the sound.

if a listener has a negative raction to the "sound" of a stereo system, it is not a good sounding stereo system, for such a person.

thus there are two ways to judge the merits of a stereo system.

the same stereo system could be judged as excellent in quality based upon intrinsic criteria but judged to be of poor quality based upon how the listener's response to that stereo system.

can a case be made definitively for one or the other position ?

if not there should be more tolerance of differences and less dogmatism.
mr t, are you getting the hint? Most of us are goofing witcha...it's difficult to remain on the 'gon if you have an onion skin temperment. relax and listen to some tunes, and think up an easier, answerable question...peace, warren :)