what is good sound ?

i'll try one last time.

there are two ways to approach the question "what is good sound ?"

the first is based upon the intrinsic qualities of the sound of instruments produced by the stereo system

the second, is based upon extrinsic criteria, having nothing to do with the quality of the sound but rather a listener's reaction to the sound.

if a listener has a negative raction to the "sound" of a stereo system, it is not a good sounding stereo system, for such a person.

thus there are two ways to judge the merits of a stereo system.

the same stereo system could be judged as excellent in quality based upon intrinsic criteria but judged to be of poor quality based upon how the listener's response to that stereo system.

can a case be made definitively for one or the other position ?

if not there should be more tolerance of differences and less dogmatism.

mr t, are you getting the hint? Most of us are goofing witcha...it's difficult to remain on the 'gon if you have an onion skin temperment. relax and listen to some tunes, and think up an easier, answerable question...peace, warren :)

Mrtennis: To quote from a true classic, "Surrender Dorothy." Your contention, simply stated, is that if it sounds good to you, that's all that matters. That may be fine, but it's not what high-end audio is all about. There is indeed such a thing as a reference, and the closer a system can get to that sound the better. Accuracy isn't subjective. Your stated preferences clearly disqualify you from any discussion concerning reference-quality sound. Some people -- like you -- simply don't have the ability to determine whether a system is accurate, partly because you'd rather spend your time subjecting Audiogoners to your pseudo-intellectual babble than acquiring better listening skills. Now go listen to your system. Nighty-night.

good sound is like good music

9rw, chill out and take an anger management course.

i appreciate your kind remarks and concerns about my listening skills and qualifications for the presidency of the pseudo-intellectual babble club.

however arbitrary statements like yours are just another opinion, although, to your credit, shared by other "audiophiles" .

however, stating an opinion about reference and accuracy does not justify it. there are other points of view equally valid. your concept of "high end" may not be shared by others.

you don't have the force of logic and necessity to back up your statements. you have no proof.

keep up the good work.